(06-25-2023, 10:08 PM)Schmoe Wrote: Well said. I did a lot of research before diving in, and I still wasn't prepared. It's kind of like preparing for a kick in the nuts. It REALLY does feel like being taken from this reality, and launched into another. Is this the real reality, or is that realm the real one?
If we're all just energy and spirits experiencing life as a human, it 100% makes sense to me that we would return to a place like that when we die. I think that's why I felt like I wasn't breathing. It's like my consciousness was removed from my body to travel to where it went, and my mind, being so used to THIS reality, couldn't accept that I didn't have to breathe. It was very bizarre. Then I broke through the breathing panic and went to the colorful place, and I wasn't aware of breathing at all. I've heard people say taking DMT feels like dying, and I tend to agree. If our pineal gland releases DMT at the precipice of death, it might explain people's near-death experiences.
NDEs are another topic of fascination to me, which is another part of why I tried DMT. I can't pretend to know what that molecule is, but it absolutely feels like it removes the veil from this existence. The fact that it's found in many plants and animals is interesting too. It occurs in quantities of 1-2% in the mimosa hostilis root bark, which is pretty significant. DMT is the psychedelic found in Ayahuasca as well, only when it's brewed like that, the trip lasts for hours. That might be a bit much for me. At least for now
Consider this - nothing "really" exists. Everything you see, smell, or can touch is made of molecules. Molecules are made of atoms, and atoms are made of subatomic particles flying in vast orbits around a nucleus, like miniature solar systems - a lot of space, tiny particles. Those "particles", in turn, are not really solid particles - they are bundles of discrete energy, not solid things in the way you would think of bowling balls being solid. They're just tiny bundles of energy flying around other tiny bundles of energy in vast orbits.
So, everything you see or can touch is mostly nothingness.
Now, in all that empty space are "forces", not even quite as tangible as energy bundles. You have things like gravity in that "empty" space, the weak force, the strong force, etc., and probably several as yet undiscovered sorts of forces. Those forces are what keep your physical body from walking through physical walls, not the atoms of the walls themselves.
What, do you suppose, would prevent "spirit" from occupying that "empty" space, right along with all those other intangible forces? Certainly, you cannot usually see "spirit", but then you can't really see gravity, either. So what is there to keep it from existing? Gravity wasn't known until Newton "discovered" it, yet it's been there all that time before, when no one knew it. The weak and strong forces are even more recent discoveries, yet they were there the entire time, too, discovered or not.
Then consider this: Your brain may be just an organ to allow spirit to experience reality in the physical realm. A sort of receiver that simply allows your spirit access to the physical reality as we experience it, your body just a vehicle, like a car or something, that spirit occupies and drives to get around and interact. Just as a radio does not contain the signal itself, your brain may not be the seat of your being at all, just a conduit to allow the signal of "spirit" to be received and processed into something you can comprehend in your physical reality.
All of that taken together would mean that "death" is not the end of YOU, it's just the wreckage of a vehicle you once drove. "You", would, in that scenario, continue on, continuing to exist in all that vast space that is really "nothing"... until you can again interact with it in the spirit, rather than the physical. That interaction would likely be far, far different than what we are normally used to in this realm.
"Spirit" and "consciousness" may very well just be interchangeable terms for the same thing. They may not be generated in the brain at all, just passing through it... and that might be why science is having such a hard time defining "consciousness".
What if things like DMT, whether naturally produced or manufactured, allows a fleeting glimpse into that realm which we normally cannot experience in our limited physical bodies? Could that be WHY DMT is produced in small quantities in the pineal gland? To provide that connection?
Would not the taking of a higher dose of DMT than the brain naturally gets from the pineal gland not open that gateway much wider and allow a deeper experience of "spirit" or "consciousness" in the wider cosmos of mostly "empty" space?
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Regarding NDE's, people often report meeting a "being" during NDEs. They usually interpret that being as "Jesus", "God", "Mohammed", "Buddha", etc. That intrigues me. What if all those people are actually meeting the exact same "being", but are interpreting that meeting within the framework of their own, most familiar, religion? As far as I know, that being has never identified itself within the NDE experience, and all that we know of it is what people have "interpreted" after the fact as they try to make sense of what just happened to them.
Just food for thought. I think about things a lot.
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