(06-24-2023, 12:23 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I too, in my teen years, tried two different types of acid during the daytime and both were positive trips, but I have never tried shrooms.
Well my daughter bought me some as a Christmas present and there it still sits on my dresser. My daughter keeps asking why I haven't tried it yet. Well I told her it was because she told me she took a larger dose of shrooms and was freaking out in the bathroom - she said she was floating in the cosmos without a body and started freaking out. I thought to myself, yeah, no thanks. I can float around the cosmos by simply doing an OBE, which I've accomplished before with my brain intact in it's normal state.
Anyway, I asked hubby if he wanted to do the shrooms with me and we could float through the cosmos and maybe together we might be able to explode some atoms with our minds. He said 'no' and I said 'you chickenshit'. I am also a 'chickenshit'. Basically I don't want to do it alone. So here I am with untouched shrooms.
It's very interesting what's happening in the medical field with shrooms because they have finished many clinical studies and the doctors say they are amazed at the positive results they have seen on mental illnesses. Even in these clinical trials the patients are never left alone and they are walked through every stage of the trip by the doctors. Maybe I should just research the stages of the shroom trip so I will know what to expect and when.
My recommendation would be to never do hallucinogens without a co-pilot or guide who is stone cold sober in case of a bad trip, to assist in keeping you grounded. While they may be fun to do as a pack or a group, if someone freaks, you need a level head in the group to keep them as calm as possible until they come back down. But that's just my recommendation - your mileage may vary.
I used to eat all manner of chemical alterants when I was a teenager, but I stopped it entirely for 40 years or so. When I went back to weed after a 40 year hiatus, I found that weed today is not the same as it was when I was a kid, so I kinda lost interest again. I doubt that DMT has undergone the same transformation of strength fortification, but then again if it had, it'd probably kill everyone that tried it. Imagine your most recent trip intensified by 10x or 20x, and you'll get the idea... pushing a "near death" experience into a "bang yer dead" experience.
DMT used to be called "businessman's lunchtime high" in the 60's and 70's, because of it's relatively short duration. You could take a trip without ever leaving the farm over lunch, and be ready for work again when lunchtime was over.
I can't take DMT for the same reason I can't smoke weed any more - both increase the heart rate, and since I developed heart trouble, they've got me on meds to REDUCE my heart rate, so it would be counterproductive and potentially fatal for me. I also had to mostly give up alcohol over the past couple months - it works in tandem with my blood thinners, and too much carries the risk of thinning my blood TOO much, carrying the potential for me to bleed to death internally and never know it until I was already a goner. On the positive side, I think my egregious alcohol consumption may have been the only thing keeping me from stroking out before they found the problem. I think it probably kept my blood just thin enough to prevent clots from forming internally and wrecking my whole world.
Shit, I feel like a monk in a monastery these days!
BUT - I do think the DMT experience gives one an insight into the inner workings of the universe, spirit-wise. The places you go and see, the beings you meet and interact with - those are as real as the chair you are sitting on, but generally cannot be comprehended in day to day life without a little "help". The experience gives one a window into what I believe "spirit" to be. The "oneness with the universe" is as near as can be to my concept of life and afterlife. It's just a bit much and overwhelming to some folks, because they are not prepared to get opened up and connected to it like that. If you've ever been there, you're probably thinking "well shit Ninurta! How in the hell COULD anyone ever possibly prepare themselves for that?"... and you're probably right. A lifetime of restriction to the boxed-in world of our limited physical senses likely cannot prepare one in the least for getting thrown wide open and interconnected spiritually like that. We just have no physical basis to compare or prepare for it.
DMT is also created, albeit in tiny, tiny, dosees, in your pineal gland according to researchers. That may be the reason that the woo-woo folk think the pineal gland is a "third eye" that gives one spiritual insights.
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