Deny Ignorance is shutting down

[p358]

It would be interesting someday to read a factual and unbiased history of ATS as a site ... the start, the high time, and the decline ... and what drove the content and behavior of the site over the years.

The decline started at the same time as the internet went sour.

Bots, sock puppets, and TDS sufferers abounded.

ATS was attacked relentlessly until demise.

DI was started by those that destroyed ATS, with a few exceptions I expect.

The truth must not get out there!

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[LightAngel]

If we want to be a strong force against "evil" then we have to stick together people.

I like this site, and I also like DI.

I wish we could just get along.

[Ninurta]

If we want to be a strong force against "evil" then we have to stick together people.

I like this site, and I also like DI.

I wish we could just get along.

I recently had occasion for some back-channel communications with some other folks wherein I promoted that very idea, which is also the way I see it.

I'm not big on board wars. They're exhausting, with rarely ever a "winner". Instead, it's my belief that forums such as this, DI, and all the rest ought to get along and help one another, making the whole stronger and less susceptible to external attacks. For example, as happened here, one could provide safe refuge when another is under the gun. That would tend towards the membership being less scattered, and more secure, knowing there is always an alternate place to light and co-ordinate.. 

Also as has happened here, one can be a rally point for information when another is under attack or experiencing technical problems - when our bot attacks started giving us trouble, DI was available as a place where we could let folks know what was going on, and how it was being addressed for repairs. That has an effect of reducing anxiety among the membership and making them feel more secure - they know what is happening, and that steps are being taken to remediate it, so they're not just left swinging in the breeze all alone.

My point is, we're all stronger when we are in the same harness, pulling in the same direction. We don't have to see eye to eye on everything, but neither do we have to fight over members. It's entirely possible to be a member of multiple forums and still contribute. Each board has it's own individual "flavor", and some folks will naturally gravitate more towards this one or that one, but that doesn't mean everything has to devolve into a fight between boards.

It just means people are more comfortable with one format or another, with what one board may concentrate on that another doesn't. I personally don't see that as a reason to start throwing punches or "ban" members because they may also be a member elsewhere. I don't see it as a reason to suppress mention of one board on another. ATS was pretty bad about that. If folks are more comfortable elsewhere, let them go there with blessings. If it's done right, whatever they may do "over there" is eventually going to find it's way back to you as well, because good information tends to spread.

Petty jealousies are unbecoming of the "conspiracy theory" community, in my opinion As with other areas of life, they are just damaging and unproductive, not only to the "opponent", but also to the Self. I think we should recognize our differences, sure, but also our similarities, and celebrate both - it can only make us ALL stronger in the end.

Sort of the way alliances do in the geopolitical world.

Various Oriental nations have a phrase for the concept -  "Gung-ho", "Cong-wa", etc. They all mean the same thing - "work together" or "pull together".

More outlets for information dissemination can't be a bad thing, so why penalize one another or the membership for doing so?

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[DontTreadOnMe]

Looks like D.I. has been saved 

Define "saved"?
At this point, no one really knows what's going on.
Reminds me more of the last days of ATS more than anything else.

[Ninurta]

Looks like D.I. has been saved 

Define "saved"?
At this point, no one really knows what's going on.
Reminds me more of the last days of ATS more than anything else.

Makes sense to me. Turmoil and confusion culminating in a sale to outside interests... it does appear to be following the same template.

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