(06-30-2023, 12:10 AM)Michigan Swamp Buck Wrote: Well Ninurta, it sure sounds like we're related.
My Aunt, my maternal grandmother's sister, she was the family storyteller about her family's move west to the Colorado Territory from Missouri after the Civil War. They were wandering around from Virginia to Kentucky then eventually Missouri with their "help" as she put it, but obviously, she was talking about slaves. Apparently everyone including the "help" were crying when the war was over and slavery ended as their slaves were part of the family (not that I can find those folks easily). Now I believe it was Captain William Tucker that brought over the first slave couple to have children in what would become the United States, so Mom's family had been at it since they landed.
That all aside, I think we should try and find a common ancestor here in the New World. I think we'll find a closer relationship than good ole Ragnarsson. Did you know that the nickname "boneless" is thought to be because he had a medical issue? Can you guess what that was?
That sounds like Grace's family's migration story-Virginia, Kentucky, Missouri, Kansas, and spread out from there. Come to find out, one of her ancestors was a political figure in the county of VA that I grew up in, and I knew about him, but he had died 200 years ago. I found her in Missouri, and until we started digging, had no idea that her roots were actually in the same place mine were.
I've heard a lot of stories about both slaves and slave-holders being upset by emancipation, for the same reason you state, but you can't get folks to believe that now, since they're so indoctrinated. That doesn't advance the "reparations" narrative.
Capt Tucker - was he the captain of the 1619 ship? While the 1619 project is mostly hogwash, it's true that the first Africans in VA came in to Jamestowne in 1619. They had been bound for the Carribbean for slavery, but got detoured to Jamestown and their indentures were sold to colonists. Note they were "indentured", not "chattel slaves", so when their time was up and their indenture worked off, they were free to go do as the wished. More than free - Virginia colonial law at that time required their former master to provide them with a gun and a new set of clothes before sending them off to find their own fortune.
There were no chattel slaves in the English colonies until the mid to late 1600's, and as it turns out, one of my ancestors may have been the first known, recorded chattel slave, a guy with the last name of "Bunch" I'm still researching that, so it's not certain, but it might explain that bit of African DNA I've got. He was enslaved, but his son was not - the law had not yet been passed to make the children of slaves slaves themselves since slavery was a brand new thing here, just created in that court case,, so his son went off and did his thing when he was of age, a free man.
One explanation for Ivar the Boneless' name is that his stiffer wouldn't peck up, so he had no "bone" - I reckon that's enough to make a fella irritable enough to want to kill other folks and take their country. I mean, he'd have plenty of time on his hands - what else would there be to do?
Now, I don't know yet all of my ancestors that first came to these shores, but think that looking at New England ancestry might be the way to go to find our first American common ancestor. For example, I also had some folks on the Mayflower - not that any of those snooty society mayflower families would claim me now - and that might be a place to start looking. I can't recall any of the mayflower names off the top of my head, but I do recall a "Plimpton", "Plympton", or "Plumpton" depending on who is spelling it, that was captured by Indians during Pontiac's War and carried off to Canada, and burned at the stake there.
There is another, a Wright, who was a ship's captain out of a port in Connecticut, who died at sea during a Bermuda run, and was buried at sea.
I'd have to fire up GRAMPS and run through it to get more names and details, which I can't do at the moment.
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