(05-24-2023, 11:28 AM)SomeJackleg Wrote: it's pretty much that way in many of the big million plus cities now hell it's even that way in lower population cities, and yes there are gangs roaming the streets and yes they do strike in packs with a shot calling gang leader.
your expecting it not to increase if pooh pooh gets deep. that's a very unrealistic view.
No, I said it would increase, just not into some version of a "Mad Max" apocalypse. Laws will remain in place and there will still be police, just not as many to enforce the laws.
The point is, one can either take their chances where they are, in a familiar setting where they know the terrain, or they can try to re-establish themselves somewhere unfamiliar. That last option seems a lot riskier to me. Like it or not, no man is an island. No man can be an island. At some point, everyone needs something from a neighbor or friend.
The very concept of a "bug-out bag" is a good idea for emergency escape from temporary disasters that has been taken to new and unrealistic lengths by those seeking profit. Yes, if there's a major flood or a tornado outbreak or a volcanic eruption or a wildfire, it is a great idea to have the essentials already packed and ready to go. One never knows when they might have to flee such occurrences. But for long-term survival? The very idea of living as a refugee is rarely preferable to sticking it out a few days to fully prepare.
The place most people plan on bugging out to is where people coexist through mutual respect. The elements are not one's biggest concern in such a case; the locals are. Camping on their property is a massive show of disrespect, and they will remove anyone doing so. They're as concerned about their safety and livelihood as you are, and they are armed and know the area. You'd be better off with the roving gangs... at least they're poor shots as a rule.
TheRedneck