How did this conversation go from "secret societies" to "all Moslems is nice folks, just misunderstood"?
Some Moslems ARE nice people. Many are not. The fact is, that's neither here nor there. A few, a very few, have managed to separate the religion of Islam from the socio-political-economic system of Islam that has embedded itself with the religion. Those few, if they survive, may manage to bring Islam out of the 7th century and into the 21st century. Don't hold your breath, though, because as it was with Christianity, it will also be a very long process for Islam, if it ever succeeds.
In Europe, the problem is not Islam, the problem is a clash of cultures brought on by uncontrolled migrations. It's the same problem as in the US,where the mass migrations have nothing to do with Islam for the most part. Here, they are from another culture entirely, but the problem is the same. It's all to do with a massive influx of a foreign culture that has no intention to integrate into the pre-existent society.
That makes it more of a "take over" than an immigration, both here and over there.
It's nothing to do with the religions, it's everything to do with which populations were closest to hand for the "elites" to throw at the targeted societies. In Europe, it was Middle Eastern and North African Moslems who were most convenient to be thrown at the society. Here in the US, it was central and South American Hispanics who were most convenient to throw at our society in massive, overwhelming numbers.
There are two former Moslems living in my house. FORMER Moslems. That means, boys and girls, that they are what Moslems call "apostates", and are therefore subject to summary execution under Islamic law. Most schools of Islamic jurisprudence give an apostate two days to repent and return to Islam. After that, they are subject to summary execution by any Moslem who cares to kill them. That's the law. If any Moslem tells you any different, they are lying to you. So, those two former Moslems are here specifically so that I can control the environment and approaches, and cause any problems that might come looking for them to disappear permanently, never to be seen or heard from again. Just POOF!, vanished. It's a kind of magic.
That, boys and girls, is a fact. it's an ugly fact, but a fact nonetheless. Another fact is that while the invaders - Moslems in Europe, Hispanics in the US - agitate for "multiculturalism" and "Inclusion", you will find no such concepts at work in most of the nations they came from. One has to ask themselves why that is. Your answer to that question may differ from mine.
The problem is not Islam. it's only perceived to be Islam in Europe because that is the majority of the invasion forces there. The problem is the INVASIONS themselves. Massive movements of migrants seeking to take over territory that is not theirs to take.
Islam is certainly a primitive religion, two steps above Animism and only one step above the Polytheism that it arose from, but it - by itself - is not the problem. It has the potential to evolve into a benign, peaceful religion if it ever finds the will to do so.
The bigger problem is the groups facilitating these mass invasions, both here and in Europe. I don't know if they are Secret Societies or not. Certainly, at least some of their machinations are achieved in secret, but at the same time they have eminently public organs promoting this lunacy. If, as Masons or Shriners or whatever else one may have, they are seen as "Secret" Societies, the fact that we know they exist means their secrecy truly sucks. The operative ideal on "secret" is secrecy, and they seem to be pretty dismal at that endeavor.
Are Masons Moslems? Are Moslems Masons? I don't know, and I don't care. I'm neither a Mason nor a Moslem, so what they do in private ain't none of my damned business. What they do in public is another story, because as a member of the public, that makes it my business.
So, let's decide what this thread is about - is it about Secret Societies, or is it about evil Moslems vs. good Moslems?
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Some Moslems ARE nice people. Many are not. The fact is, that's neither here nor there. A few, a very few, have managed to separate the religion of Islam from the socio-political-economic system of Islam that has embedded itself with the religion. Those few, if they survive, may manage to bring Islam out of the 7th century and into the 21st century. Don't hold your breath, though, because as it was with Christianity, it will also be a very long process for Islam, if it ever succeeds.
In Europe, the problem is not Islam, the problem is a clash of cultures brought on by uncontrolled migrations. It's the same problem as in the US,where the mass migrations have nothing to do with Islam for the most part. Here, they are from another culture entirely, but the problem is the same. It's all to do with a massive influx of a foreign culture that has no intention to integrate into the pre-existent society.
That makes it more of a "take over" than an immigration, both here and over there.
It's nothing to do with the religions, it's everything to do with which populations were closest to hand for the "elites" to throw at the targeted societies. In Europe, it was Middle Eastern and North African Moslems who were most convenient to be thrown at the society. Here in the US, it was central and South American Hispanics who were most convenient to throw at our society in massive, overwhelming numbers.
There are two former Moslems living in my house. FORMER Moslems. That means, boys and girls, that they are what Moslems call "apostates", and are therefore subject to summary execution under Islamic law. Most schools of Islamic jurisprudence give an apostate two days to repent and return to Islam. After that, they are subject to summary execution by any Moslem who cares to kill them. That's the law. If any Moslem tells you any different, they are lying to you. So, those two former Moslems are here specifically so that I can control the environment and approaches, and cause any problems that might come looking for them to disappear permanently, never to be seen or heard from again. Just POOF!, vanished. It's a kind of magic.
That, boys and girls, is a fact. it's an ugly fact, but a fact nonetheless. Another fact is that while the invaders - Moslems in Europe, Hispanics in the US - agitate for "multiculturalism" and "Inclusion", you will find no such concepts at work in most of the nations they came from. One has to ask themselves why that is. Your answer to that question may differ from mine.
The problem is not Islam. it's only perceived to be Islam in Europe because that is the majority of the invasion forces there. The problem is the INVASIONS themselves. Massive movements of migrants seeking to take over territory that is not theirs to take.
Islam is certainly a primitive religion, two steps above Animism and only one step above the Polytheism that it arose from, but it - by itself - is not the problem. It has the potential to evolve into a benign, peaceful religion if it ever finds the will to do so.
The bigger problem is the groups facilitating these mass invasions, both here and in Europe. I don't know if they are Secret Societies or not. Certainly, at least some of their machinations are achieved in secret, but at the same time they have eminently public organs promoting this lunacy. If, as Masons or Shriners or whatever else one may have, they are seen as "Secret" Societies, the fact that we know they exist means their secrecy truly sucks. The operative ideal on "secret" is secrecy, and they seem to be pretty dismal at that endeavor.
Are Masons Moslems? Are Moslems Masons? I don't know, and I don't care. I'm neither a Mason nor a Moslem, so what they do in private ain't none of my damned business. What they do in public is another story, because as a member of the public, that makes it my business.
So, let's decide what this thread is about - is it about Secret Societies, or is it about evil Moslems vs. good Moslems?
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“Trouble rather the tiger in his lair than the sage among his books. For to you kingdoms and their armies are things mighty and enduring, but to him they are but toys of the moment, to be overturned with the flick of a finger.”
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake