(07-18-2025, 05:23 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Wondering when the last great migrations in history were ? I'm thinking that ended with the spread of the Arabs over the countries of north Africa post-Mohammed and emergence of Islam.
The "authorities" play all this down, but this event, viewed clinically, is "world history stuff" of a high order.
And as I recall, the societies on the receiving end of mass migrations faded and disappeared.
I would say he last mass migrations were during the Age of Discovery, when the Spanish, Portuguese, French, and English invaded the Americas via mass migrations. That didn't end well for those on the receiving end, either. It devastated and ended their cultures, and in the Spanish and Portuguese portions of the invasion, it didn't actually end their bloodlines, but it severely diluted them, to the point that the majority populations in those areas now are neither European or Native, but rather a hybridized mix of the two called "mestizos", who are culturally Spanish or Portuguese, with very little remnants of the old culture remaining at the periphery.
Europe has been a pretty hot property, on the receiving end of "mass migrations"/invasions for at least 50,000 years, since the first modern humans invaded the European territory of the Neanderthals.
What the Europeans need to come to the realization of, sooner rather than later, is that if they oppose the invasions stringently enough, if they do it like they mean it, they can turn back the invaders. The last time Muslims tried to invade Europe, it was a two-pronged attack both east and west - through the Balkans in the east, and through Spain in the west. They were initially successful in Spain, but were turned back by Martel at Tours in France in the west. Roughly 700 years after that, even Spain got the testicular fortitude to finally eject the Muslims from western Europe altogether.
In the east, also, they were initially successful in the Balkans (remnants of which we can still see today, for example in the Islamic population of Bosnia), but were finally turned back at Vienna.
So it CAN be done, the invasions CAN be stopped, but the catch is, the invaders have to be ejected, and you have to do it like you mean it - half hearted measures will not work - it only whets their appetite for conquest.
The time to do that is NOW. It's easier to throw the bums out when there are fewer of them to throw. Simple math. It's nice to be nice, but this is neither the time nor the place for that. The time for talking and niceties is over. This is an undeclared war. The "immigrants"/invaders understand that, and act accordingly. It's high time the European citizenry comes to understand that, and rises to the challenge. It's obvious Europe's alleged "leaders" are not going to do it, so the responsibility devolves to the citizens who are, after all, the ones who will be killed, enslaved, or displaced.
When only one side realizes they are at war, it make conquest quite a lot easier - the conquerors simply roll right over the conquered, and start subjugating before the conquered can gather their wits to mount opposition.
For the Islamists, this invasion is simply reclaiming Islamic territory - "al-Andalus", for example. It was Islamic territory for almost 800 years, and to the Islamist mind, it STILL is, but simply in rebellion against Islam.
Wake up, Europe, or else learn to perform salat, get used to being on the receiving end of "Egyptian rape", and get used to being second-class citizens in your own home territory. Islam is not kind to conquered peoples.
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“Trouble rather the tiger in his lair than the sage among his books. For to you kingdoms and their armies are things mighty and enduring, but to him they are but toys of the moment, to be overturned with the flick of a finger.”
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake