(06-24-2025, 09:06 PM)Ninurta Wrote: Well, to be fair, Trump sort of invited that "last licks in"scenario when he said that the ceasefire would commence in so many hours, after actions already in progress have played out So, both sides said "well, we'd best get some final actions 'already in progress' before the deadline!"
Agreed. I thought the same thing.
Quote:Additionally, I'm hearing he was sort of vague on when the deadline fell. He should have said "at such and such a time, GMT, all operations either in progress or in planning will stop cold." That would have stepped the vagueness that allowed these violations to happen.
It wasn't just vague, it was stair stepped. It started for the Iranians 12 hours before it started for Israel. And Trump even said that...leading to even more confusion. A ceasefire should be at a defined time, for ALL parties engaged in the conflict, not one time for one party and then another for the other party. That's just inviting trouble.
Quote:Well, most of them. That bulshit of Iran launching a couple more missiles 4 hours after the cease fire, and then saying "Nah, it wasn't me. Look over THERE!" and pointing anywhere away from themselves would have still happened..
Again, agreed. Iran has exactly zero credibility, and it doesn't matter what they say, because even in the Koran it says it's perfectly fine to lie through your teeth in order to defeat the 'evil zionist devils and infidels'. So the West should never expect anything different. Plus, a huge part of Muslim culture is all about "saving face". It's not just a personal ego thing, it's like a cultural requirement thing and an obligation to Muhammad and ultimately Allah.
Unfortunately, Israel and Netanyahu in particular, isn't far behind in the trust department. They say one thing and then do something altogether different.