(06-24-2025, 05:12 PM)FCD Wrote:Quote:At least 25 civilians were killed today in Gaza after IDF opened fire on a crowd waiting for an aid delivery.
For what reason?
I seem to be the vast minority here in my assessment of Netanyahu, but I stand by what I have said. I also believe if people take the time to look they will see the same patterns of behavior. This man simply does not want peace. You will see.
I have no opinion on Netenyahu. I know nothing about the man beyond the fact that he is just a tool, but a tool that is, at the moment, preserving Israel's right to exist. Beyond that, I know nothing about the man, and don't care to waste any time getting to know him.
I can accept your stipulation, and that of Gortex, that "Netanyahu does not want peace", as well as Gortex's contention that "Israel is as much to blame for the violation as Iran is". The fact is, the ayatollahs don't want peace, either, not any more than Netanyahu does, and likely a fair amount less - I don't see Israelis requiring school children to start their day chanting "Death to Iran!"
Given those conditions, I'm rapidly approaching the opinion that we ought to just give 'em both a set of figurative boxing gloves, then stand back to keep everyone else from jumping in, and just let them go to town on one another, duke it out, and tell them "the last man standing wins".
The main problem with that scenario is that, in the case of an Iran win and the elimination of Israel, then in 15 years or so we'd just have to go in and bomb the crap out of Iran's nuclear program again to keep the rest of the world safe from their aggressive tendencies. Remember, their ultimate goal is "to make all the world for Allah and Islam"... so, once Israel is gone, they'll just turn to the next target, and keep on chugging along. Furthermore, as a Shi'ite nation, all Sunni moslem nations are on the menu, too. "Making the world for Allah and Islam" also means the elimination, eventually, of Sunni Islam as well.
There is no peaceful way out.
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“Trouble rather the tiger in his lair than the sage among his books. For to you kingdoms and their armies are things mighty and enduring, but to him they are but toys of the moment, to be overturned with the flick of a finger.”
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake