A discussion on Love

[Ninurta]

Then, whats the point in the gun in the first place?

I'm an old man. I'm not as rough and tumble as I once was. A firearm makes the likelihood of a successful defense much more likely.

This ideology makes you an arm of God?

I'm not sure how you arrive at that conclusion. Seems like an awful stretch to me, a stretch past the breaking point. Putting down a home invader doesn't make me "an arm of God" any more than it makes me a cucumber. It just makes me a defender.

By the way, it's a structured theology rather than just a mere generic ideology. It is called "Reformation Theology", and was a reaction to the catholic church's abuse of religion and power.

Sounds militant to me.

It is. Very. I've never claimed otherwise. Defense is a militant action, and usually cannot be done peacefully when the attacker is not having any peaceful resolution.

If you're protected by God, you don't need a gun. Like you said, you'll never even be bothered with it.

Under that assumption, if I'm protected by God, then neither do I need a fire extinguisher, car insurance, or money. Under that assumption, if I'm protected by God, then there is nothing at all I ever need. God would just give me everything, and I'd never have to do anything. It's a faulty assumption - have you never heard the axiom that God helps those who help themselves?
 

Myself personally, I guess am not attached to my stuff like that. Seems contradictory to the way I'm seeing love through the eyes of Christ, which is love. Plus it's not a fear enough to have firearms. I believe in people's right to have them. And the right not to. 

But in the scenario you presented, this individual breaks into the house while people are home. In that case, and with that bold a home breaker, your "stuff" is the last thing you need to worry about.One must assume under those conditions that anyone breaking in knowing people are there intends harm to the occupants more so than their "stuff". In the scenario presented, the problem is not one of protecting inanimate objects that can be replaced, it is one of protecting the lives and well-being of your family.

And I agree that people have the right to have guns as well as the right NOT to have guns. People must do as their own conscience dictates.

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I just reread that last post. You sound like you are literally the all mighty judgement and right hand of God.
Sir, I've studied cults.

That was very close to their rhetoric.

Js

No. Just... no. I never said any such thing, and have no idea how you could manage to torture that thought out of what I DID say.

But, as far as it being a "cult", I can sort of see how you get that. The Catholic Church said the same thing when the Reformation (from which that theology comes) appeared in the 1400's.

The Catholics killed us in droves back then, and especially in the 1500's on both sides of the Atlantic, for thinking that way and daring to read the Bible and adhere to what it says, rather than taking some priest's word for it. They believed themselves to be doing God's work in passing judgement on us "heretics" and executing us in masses. They got really up in arms about it.

It was called The Inquisition. They eventually got worn out with killing us, and gave up. We were the original Protestants.

Protestantism is the "cult" I stand accused of belonging to, the very root of Protestantism.

Guilty as charged.

You can read your Bible in your own language today because some Protestants were willing to risk execution by the Inquisition, some of whom actually were executed for it (Tyndale comes to mind), for translating the Bible into the language of the common folks.

Even the Catholic Douay-Rheims version of the Bible was a response to Protestant Bible translations, when the Catholics realized they would never be able to stamp out the spirit. In an "if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em" sort of move, they translated the Latin Vulgate Bible in use by the Catholic Church into English to keep Catholics from reading a Protestant translation.

I come from a long, very old, Christian theology which has been name called, persecuted, and reviled for centuries for believing as we do. We're used to it.

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