On Natural Disasters:
http://www.phenomena.org.uk/page29/page31/page31.html (not my site)
Judging by the surrounding events in the same year ("a "great fall of stars", "blood rained from the clouds"), it could correspond closely to the events predicted for our times - either the arrival of a comet, a "moving" constellation of stars, possibly another planet passing by without colliding - although back then, there may have been a 4-6 grace period after the portend was observed, seeing as how nothing noteworthy happened between these years. The owner was very meticulolus in documenting natural phenomena, I don't think they'd have neglected the years leading up to 536.
I expect that our generation, if it doesn't heed the warnings, will endure a very similar long winter (not the exact same event), but I haven't accounted for what that scenario would be like, I spent too much time gathering data for the preceding events.
Good point about migrations, reminds me of the Goths who were driven out by Huns.
As for the three unknown locations, that reminds me of something strange I read in Mother Shipton:
Three sleeping mountains gather breath
And spew out mud, and ice and death.
And earthquakes swallow town and town,
In lands as yet to me unknown.
Drei schlafende Berge holen Luft und
Speien Schlamm und Eis und Tod aus.
Und Erdbeben schlucken Stadt und Stadt,
In Ländern, die mir noch unbekannt.
Of course, the works published around her time, and contemporary savants and scholars dismiss the whole thing as a hoax, but I don't know if anyone has ever drawn a connection to 536 AD before.
For instance, a dream around the time of Ohio chemical spill: https://old.reddit.com/r/Dreams/comments..._the_ohio/
Another example, a dream around the time Russia's space weapon capabilities were publicized: https://old.reddit.com/r/DreamsInterpret...up_in_the/
However, I read that Russian astronomical history distinguished itself in this respect. https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?r...87f2a470fb
"It was also the custom for each new Russian chronicler to copy much of the previous writings of several monasteries before beginning to record the events of his own time... The overlapping feature of the Russian chronicles... has made it possible for many descriptions of historical events to survive even when the original chronicles have not."
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Terrorists are usually more brazen. If terrorists were really behind 9/11, then they let the world know that the US wasn't as strong and mighty, that it could be touched, that no one was safe.
As for body count, again I'd say that applies more for serial killers. Terrorists don't always kill to satiate their bloodlust or to relish bloodshed.
But does that really apply for CIA?
^ That's what I heard from my contacts at least.
Also, an ex-military guy once told me, "I, however, have heard our top military leaders speak about this type of thing in-person. This, in addition to now declassified transcripts from the Cuban missile crisis, along with my own military experiences, lead me to believe that our military leadership sees themselves as virtually infallible."
"cut-outs" or "dead-drops" I was unfamiliar with those terms, but it makes sense that they'd keep their own agents in the dark.
Good point about sending a message to the terrorists, that hadn't occurred to me. I had the impression Russia would've bombed them like they did with Ukraine after Belgorod.
(03-26-2024, 09:09 AM)Ninurta Wrote: A large volcanic eruption in 536 AD, for example, wrought havoc for several years in Europe.Thanks for drawing my attention to 536 AD!
http://www.phenomena.org.uk/page29/page31/page31.html (not my site)
Judging by the surrounding events in the same year ("a "great fall of stars", "blood rained from the clouds"), it could correspond closely to the events predicted for our times - either the arrival of a comet, a "moving" constellation of stars, possibly another planet passing by without colliding - although back then, there may have been a 4-6 grace period after the portend was observed, seeing as how nothing noteworthy happened between these years. The owner was very meticulolus in documenting natural phenomena, I don't think they'd have neglected the years leading up to 536.
I expect that our generation, if it doesn't heed the warnings, will endure a very similar long winter (not the exact same event), but I haven't accounted for what that scenario would be like, I spent too much time gathering data for the preceding events.
Good point about migrations, reminds me of the Goths who were driven out by Huns.
As for the three unknown locations, that reminds me of something strange I read in Mother Shipton:
Three sleeping mountains gather breath
And spew out mud, and ice and death.
And earthquakes swallow town and town,
In lands as yet to me unknown.
Drei schlafende Berge holen Luft und
Speien Schlamm und Eis und Tod aus.
Und Erdbeben schlucken Stadt und Stadt,
In Ländern, die mir noch unbekannt.
Of course, the works published around her time, and contemporary savants and scholars dismiss the whole thing as a hoax, but I don't know if anyone has ever drawn a connection to 536 AD before.
(03-26-2024, 09:09 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Who's to say that something equally disastrous didn't happen in 472 AD, but perhaps in a different locale where it went unrecorded?True, it could've happened in a remote region, like with the Tunguska event.
(03-26-2024, 09:09 AM)Ninurta Wrote: That's the problem with retroactive "prophecies" - you reach a point where not enough information was recorded to prove or disprove them, and from there on, it's all speculative.Yeah, clairvoyants often show a habit of turning to recent events for their fulfillment, when the recent event is merely a confirmation or foreshadowing of a possible future event.
For instance, a dream around the time of Ohio chemical spill: https://old.reddit.com/r/Dreams/comments..._the_ohio/
Another example, a dream around the time Russia's space weapon capabilities were publicized: https://old.reddit.com/r/DreamsInterpret...up_in_the/
However, I read that Russian astronomical history distinguished itself in this respect. https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?r...87f2a470fb
"It was also the custom for each new Russian chronicler to copy much of the previous writings of several monasteries before beginning to record the events of his own time... The overlapping feature of the Russian chronicles... has made it possible for many descriptions of historical events to survive even when the original chronicles have not."
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(03-26-2024, 09:09 AM)Ninurta Wrote: The objective of terrorism is not to show strength, it's to terrorize folks. Terrorists nearly always go after the weak and helpless, because those types can't kill them right back.Thanks for correcting me, although I'd say that applies more for serial killers (with a few exceptions, such as Pedro Rodrigues Filho).
Terrorists are usually more brazen. If terrorists were really behind 9/11, then they let the world know that the US wasn't as strong and mighty, that it could be touched, that no one was safe.
As for body count, again I'd say that applies more for serial killers. Terrorists don't always kill to satiate their bloodlust or to relish bloodshed.
(03-26-2024, 09:09 AM)Ninurta Wrote: IThe problem with "backing" organizations of this nature is that there comes a time when there are too many people involved to properly control.I heard Russian historian Andrei Fursov confirming this was the case as far as his country was concerned: "One shouldn't think that the KGB is an absolute organization. It's a typically routine organization with its own mess. Some things were lost."
But does that really apply for CIA?
(03-26-2024, 09:09 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Things can get out of hand when they start believing their own bullshit and going their own way.Then they stop believing other people because deep down they know they are lying and to justify it they have to believe that "everyone does it." Our leaders think everyone has to see the world the same way we do.
^ That's what I heard from my contacts at least.
Also, an ex-military guy once told me, "I, however, have heard our top military leaders speak about this type of thing in-person. This, in addition to now declassified transcripts from the Cuban missile crisis, along with my own military experiences, lead me to believe that our military leadership sees themselves as virtually infallible."
"cut-outs" or "dead-drops" I was unfamiliar with those terms, but it makes sense that they'd keep their own agents in the dark.
Good point about sending a message to the terrorists, that hadn't occurred to me. I had the impression Russia would've bombed them like they did with Ukraine after Belgorod.