(10-28-2023, 02:28 AM)BodhisattvaStyle Wrote: I didn't mean the nuts and bolts thinker comment as an insult. I noticed your analytical mind in other posts, and I've seen the separation in how it's viewed from the analytical mind and the imaginative mindset. I'm the opposite of the purely analytical thought and tend to day dream way too much. But, I have the upmost respect for you and all my analytical thinkers out there.
I'm not offended. I was just pointing out that if I have an internal logic error, I wouldn't know it because it's internal. Therefore I have to rely on external assessments as more objective.
Quote:On the flip side. I'd have to disagree with you that those "arts" don't have any real power. The Bible is full of accounts that even the Word of God shows there is power in those arts.
Take Moses for one example. He threw his staff down and it became a snake. The magicians threw there staffs down and theirs became snakes the same as Moses' staff. Same with the Nile turning to blood. Etc.
Saul went to a medium and had Samuel's spirit raised up to have a conversation with him. And against Samuel's desire to be raised up like that.
In the New Testament Paul was walking through a town and a girl with psychic abilities kept following him around yammering on and on. The Bible says that town was reliant on her predictions ro make money. Whatever she said came true. Paul, annoyed with her turns around and cast a demon out of her.
The Bible states there is power in this magic.
A power we aren't to mess with. (I only read. I would never participate in any of that regardless)
So, I respectfully disagree with you on that.
We just have a difference of opinion on the source and routes of the power, not the power itself. It's "there", wherever there may be. The only difference that difference of opinion might make would be in what countermeasures might potentially be effective, and perhaps not even then. We are seeing the same thing, just from different angles, different perspectives.
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