(10-22-2023, 09:20 AM)gortex Wrote:(10-22-2023, 12:29 AM)putnam6 Wrote:(10-21-2023, 10:13 PM)gortex Wrote: Human Rights investigators analysing the available data from the Hospital strike say indications from doppler sound tracking analysis from the video of the strike indicated the missile came from the East and not West as claimed by the IDF , imagery of the crater seems to back that analysis up , analysis of the audio of the alleged conversation between the two militants released by the IDF as part of their "evidence" is of two different conversations edited together using an audio workstation.
Hey, Gortex good to see you here...
Wasn't the original "official" portrayal the missile hit the hospital directly it was destroyed and there were 500 deaths of innocent Gazans?
I say this with the complete realization that the proportionality here is out of whack , while understanding Israel is still getting attacked for Hezbollah and elsewhere as well as launches from within Gaza. All the while only 2 hostages have been released.
You can't hold innocent civilians while shooting missiles and attacking on all sides and expect Israel to stand down. It can't be shown that anybody gets a reprieve when you kidnap and take civilians hostage. Again I don't agree with the proportionality but I understand where this has put Israel at.
Hi Putnam , thanks for the welcome.
At the time of the strike the unofficial report from those at the scene was the missile hit the car park where civilians were sheltering which would seem to be the case , Israel said it was a failed rocket launch by terrorists which like other claims they've made would seem not to be the case if the claims in the video are correct.
Personally I think Israel are where they want to be , not sure they're that interested in the hostages as their deaths bolster Israel's position.
As you know I've taken much heat at the other place over this but I'm only calling it as I see it , I'm not anti semitic I'm anti war but this war seems to me to be a war of opportunity on Israel's part , or more specifically Netanyahu and his unpopular Far Right government , I see little proportionality but much crimes against humanity with the West seemingly happy to ignore war crimes taking place in Gaza , our governments have blood on their hands too.
NO, multiple sources prime MSM sources reported the hospital was hit and there were 500 dead, why is that fact so hard to admit? The source was Gaza Health minister
Im no fan of Netanyahu, but he didn't kidnap the hostages Hamas did. Release the hostages, release some of the hostages
They have to release the hostages, at least the civilians.
The unpopular government of Netanyahu isn't being challenged because the attack by Hamas was so heinous those on the fence want retribution, and even some on the left are solidly behind in getting the hostages out.
The only ones against Netanyahu are the orthodox Hasidic Jews. Or they were
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Which is why this was a serious miscalculation from Hamas. Unless they wanted all-out war we are a step closer, the more targets in the region the more chances of escalation.
Hell Syria is going to pop first, all it will take now is American soldiers getting killed somewhere
REALITY
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Re...rease-for/
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IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Statement From Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III on Steps to Increase Force Posture
Oct. 21, 2023
Following detailed discussions with President Biden on recent escalations by Iran and its proxy forces across the Middle East Region, today I directed a series of additional steps to further strengthen the Department of Defense posture in the region. These steps will bolster regional deterrence efforts, increase force protection for U.S. forces in the region, and assist in the defense of Israel.
First, I redirected the movement of the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group to the Central Command area of responsibility. This carrier strike group is in addition to the USS Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group, which is currently operating in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea. It will further increase our force posture and strengthen our capabilities and ability to respond to a range of contingencies.
I have also activated the deployment of a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) battery as well as additional Patriot battalions to locations throughout the region to increase force protection for U.S. forces.
Finally, I have placed an additional number of forces on prepare to deploy orders as part of prudent contingency planning, to increase their readiness and ability to quickly respond as required.
I will continue to assess our force posture requirements in the region and consider deploying additional capabilities as necessary.