Some more UFO stuff

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-"Explosive" Grusch Video-

I'm sorry, but the slow drip on 'this one' is too much like every other time in the past we've been seated at the table and served-up Nothing Burgers.

Grusch (and I believe his old boss too) were run out on a rail from their last paid positions in government. Speaks volumes ... and ... he just looks weasely to me.

Remember Stephen Greer's spaceman? Good lord ...

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Fielding Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests at the National Security Research Center...









Caption: A 1970 letter about the Los Alamos Protective Force observing aerial phenomena in the early 1950s. Written to Los Alamos physicist James L. Tuck for consideration in his study on ball lightning.

Source: 10 page PDF from Los Alamos National Laboratory

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One of my favorite shows from the past.
Leonard Nimoy, In Search of... Wright Patterson AFB, 1980. "Flying Saucers & Alien Bodies" - UFO Coverups:



Generations raised on these themes with thousands of books, magazines, comic books, movies, TV shows, Conferences, Articles, Testimonies. An entire subculture/market. The Greatest tease of the 20th Century.

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Despite remarkable events of the past six years, the UFO public is impatient when it comes to truth and disclosure. When do we get to see the craft and bodies? Where is the real evidence? Will more whistleblowers come forward? Esteemed historian Richard Dolan has heard these demands before. His meticulously researched books about the complicated politics surrounding UFO truth, including the heavy-handed tactics used by intelligence agencies, the DOD, and defense contractors, are widely regarded as the most comprehensive and accurate accounts of all time. What does Dolan make of recent whistleblower revelations, strident statements by members of Congress, and renewed interest within academic circles? In this far-reaching conversation, Jeremy and George ask Dolan about current events compared to previous periods in American history, about the global nature of UFO incidents, and about how the public might handle UFO disclosure IF the truth turns out to be far darker than we might imagine. Dolan also reveals details about his latest research project - a gargantuan investigation of USO cases, that is, incidents involving unidentified objects in or around bodies of water.

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One of my favorite shows from the past.
Leonard Nimoy, In Search of...

He had a captivating voice.

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In the fall of 2017, security personnel at a U.S. military base in Iraq detected a highly unusual intruder. The bizarre object was essentially invisible to all but a thermal imaging system. A thermal recording of the object as it flew across the base was made by astonished observers. Within minutes, a video feed of the episode was cut off from U.S. allies located within the same base. Intelligence assets at the base continued to monitor the object as it crossed the facility, then zipped over an adjacent body of water, stopped on a dime, plunged into the lake, then emerged 17 minutes later and blazed into the heavens at an astonishing speed. An attempt was made by the base commanders to collect and suppress all evidence of the incident. Witnesses were all sworn to secrecy. The full video files were seized, then buried. But somehow, a partial copy of the video was made and stored on a secret internal server. The object, dubbed "the spaghetti monster" by those who later saw parts of the video, seemingly resembled a jellyfish. It was widely viewed by base personnel in the months afterward.  In this episode of WEAPONIZED, Jeremy and George reveal details about how and when they obtained a video of the sensational Jellyfish UFO, what steps were taken to try and discern what it might be, and also respond to spurious attempts to explain away the jellyfish UFO as something other than a legitimate UAP. That Jellyfish video exploded onto the UFO scene days ago and has now been viewed by millions of people around the world. Included in this episode are comments from one of the military personnel who was present at the base soon after the incident.

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Carl Sagan popularized the maxim that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” This advice should not be optional for policy makers. In today’s world of misinformation, conspiracy driven decision-making and sensationalist-dominated governance, our capacity for rational, evidence-based critical thinking is eroding, with deleterious consequences for our ability to effectively deal with multiplying challenges of ever increasing complexity.

As director of the Department of Defense’s All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), charged by Congress in 2022 to help bring science-based clarity and resolution to the long-standing mystery surrounding credible observations of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP), also known as UFOs, I experienced this erosion up close and personal. And it was one factor in my decision to step down from my position last December. After painstakingly assembling a team of highly talented and motivated personnel and working with them to develop a rational, systematic and science-based strategy to investigate these phenomena, our efforts were ultimately overwhelmed by sensational but unsupported claims that ignored contradictory evidence yet captured the attention of policy makers and the public, driving legislative battles and dominating the public narrative.

The result of this whirlwind of tall tales, fabrication and secondhand or thirdhand retellings of the same, was a social media frenzy and a significant amount of congressional and executive time and energy spent on investigating these so-called claims—as if we didn’t have anything better to do.

The conspiracists’ story goes something like this: The U.S. has been hiding and attempting to reverse engineer as many as 12 UAP/UFOs from as early as the 1960s and perhaps earlier. This great cover-up and conspiracy failed to produce any salient results, and consequently the effort was abandoned to some private sector defense contractors to continue the work. Sometime later, the story continues, those private sector contractors wanted to bring the whole program back under U.S. government (USG) auspices. Apparently, the CIA stopped this supposed transfer back to the USG. All of this is without substantiating evidence, but, alas, belief in a statement is directly proportional to the volume in which it is transmitted and the number of times it is repeated, not the actual facts.

During a full-scale, year-long investigation of this story (which has been told and retold by a small group of interconnected believers and others with possibly less than honest intentions—none of whom have firsthand accounts of any of this), AARO discovered a few things, and none were about aliens.

First, no record exists of any president or living DOD or intelligence community leader knowing about this alleged program, nor any congressional committee having such knowledge. This should speak volumes if this case were following typical procedure because it is inconceivable that a program of such import would not ever have been briefed to the 50 to 100 people at the top of the USG over the decades of its existence.

Second, this narrative has been simmering for years and is largely an outgrowth of a former program at the DOD’s Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), which was heavily influenced by a group of individuals associated with businessman and longtime ufologist Robert Bigelow, founder of Bigelow Aerospace. In 2009 then senator Harry Reid asked the secretary of defense (SECDEF) to set up a SAP (special access program) to protect the alleged UAP/UFO material that AATIP proponents believed the USG was hiding. The SECDEF declined to do so after a review by the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSDI), and DIA concluded that not only did no such material exist, but taxpayer money was being inappropriately spent on paranormal research at Skinwalker Ranch in Utah. This is well documented in open sources, particularly in records available on DIA’s electronic FOIA Reading Room. After the negative response by SECDEF, Senator Reid then enlisted the help of then senator Joseph Lieberman to request that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) set up an SAP for the same purpose. The administrative SAP proposal package was informed by the same individuals who had been associated with AATIP. AARO’s archival research has located the administrative proposal for the DHS SAP, complete with the participants, which has been declassified and is being reviewed for public release.

Finally, the key purveyors of this narrative have known one another for decades. In the early 2000s several members of this small group also participated in a study, erroneously characterized (by the same participants) as having been sponsored by the White House, on the possible societal impact of disclosing the existence of extraterrestrials to the public, with the authenticity of the above mentioned concealed government program taken as its baseline assumption. The think tank in question was a “futures” enterprise that often worked on fringe studies, and many of the individuals involved with the study also worked for Bigelow Aerospace in support of the AATIP program.

AARO thoroughly investigated these claims as part of its congressionally mandated mission to not only technically evaluate contemporary UAP observations but also review historical accounts going back to the 1940s. One of my last acts before retiring was to sign AARO’s Historical Record Report Volume 1, which is currently being prepared for delivery to Congress and the public. The report demonstrates that many of the circulating allegations described above derive from inadvertent or unauthorized disclosures of legitimate U.S. programs or related R&D that have nothing to do with extraterrestrial issues or technology. Some are misrepresentations, and some derive from pure, unsupported beliefs. In many respects, the narrative is a textbook example of circular reporting, with each person relaying what they heard, but the information often ultimately being sourced to the same small group of individuals.

The operational mission Congress has assigned AARO is important. Accumulating observations by highly trained U.S. military and other credible personnel of unidentified anomalous phenomena at or near sensitive national security areas and activities calls for a serious effort to understand what’s going on. Simply put, “unidentified” is unacceptable, particularly in these times of heightened geopolitical tension. Part of the problem we face today, however, is that the modern media cycle drives stories faster than sound research, science and peer review time lines can validate them. More worrisome is the willingness of some to make judgments and take actions on these stories without having seen or even requested supporting evidence, an omission that is all the more problematic when the claims are so extraordinary. Some members of Congress prefer to opine about aliens to the press rather than get an evidence-based briefing on the matter. Members have a responsibility to exhibit critical thinking skills instead of seeking the spotlight. As of the time of my departure, none, let me repeat, none of the conspiracy-minded “whistleblowers” in the public eye had elected to come to AARO to provide their “evidence” and statement for the record despite numerous invitations. Anyone that would rather be sensationalist in the public eye than bring their evidence to the one organization established in law with all of the legal process and security framework established to protect them, their privacy, and the information and to investigate and report out findings is suspect.

I can assure you as its former director that AARO is unwaveringly committed to harnessing science and technology to bring unprecedented clarity to these fascinating, important, and stubborn mysteries and to do so with maximum transparency. Its talented staff and team of supporting scientists are at this very moment striving in collaboration with the armed forces, intelligence community, government agencies, national laboratories, scientific community, academic community—and soon the general public—to collect and analyze hard, measurable data—i.e., extraordinary evidence—in this heretofore eyewitness-rich but data-poor field. The AARO team will go wherever the data takes it, without fail, and will not be swayed by any attempts to influence its findings otherwise. Science cannot be left on the side of the road in the mad dash to uncover some great conspiracy. Carl Sagan would expect no less, and neither should the American people.

Scientific American

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After a classified briefing with the Inspector General, members of Congress came away frustrated by the lack of transparency and stonewalling by intelligence agencies regarding UFO/UAP information. However, some congressmembers hinted they received information verifying certain claims made by whistleblowers about retrieved materials and non-human entities. There appears to be an effort to conceal information from Congress and the public, leading to calls for more hearings and testimony to get to the bottom of things. Overall, the briefing provided some validation but also raised more questions that require further investigation. Thanks for watching, liking, and subscribing! It really helps the channel.

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After a classified briefing with the Inspector General, members of Congress came away frustrated by the lack of transparency and stonewalling by intelligence agencies regarding UFO/UAP information. However, some congressmembers hinted they received information verifying certain claims made by whistleblowers about retrieved materials and non-human entities. There appears to be an effort to conceal information from Congress and the public, leading to calls for more hearings and testimony to get to the bottom of things. Overall, the briefing provided some validation but also raised more questions that require further investigation. Thanks for watching, liking, and subscribing! It really helps the channel.

Oops, this video caused me to go down the rabbit hole.  Led to professor Garry Nolan and others.  Now I'm hooked.  So much historical stuff I'd never imagined or heard of.

I watched a few of the following vids that covered more similar topics.  Been hours.  Clicking on this and that.

I'm going for a drink and a couple of long smokes.  I'll be days looking into this subject.

Thanks Sky.  (nothing else will get done around the place.  It's too hot and humid to work outside anyway)

Kind regards,

Bally)

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Good interview regarding the SSP.



Dolan presents his opinions regarding the many facets of government involvement with the UFO phenomenon and it's many overlaps in our strange world of what is reality & beyond.

00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:47 Early years of UFO secrecy
00:11:01 UFO crashes and retrievals
00:17:30 Do we already possess starships?
00:24:59 Telepathy and the mystical
00:30:51 Need for secrecy
00:35:55 Bob Lazar and Philip Corso
00:45:23 Aliens among us
00:55:17 Government cooperation with aliens
01:07:36 How long have they been hered?
01:14:28 Religious dimensions of the phenomena
01:22:24 Conclusion
(Recorded on December 21, 2023)

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This U.S. insider just responded to the Jellyfish UFO & sent out this message to the American people. The US just released this about the Jellyfish UFO. The United States government has issued a formal statement addressing the widely circulated video that captures the mysterious jellyfish UFO. This compelling footage originates from a military installation in Iraq and was documented back in twenty eighteen. The government's response reflects the need for a thorough examination of this intriguing event, aiming to provide an enriching and comprehensive grasp of the situation. Jeremy Corbell shared the video online. Corbell, known for his involvement in the newly unveiled UFO Revolution docuseries, emphasized that the unidentified flying object depicted in the footage was formally classified as an unidentified aerial phenomenon by the Pentagon.

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So ... Grusch says he knows.
The gooberment guy at the top of the food chain of UFOs says, "There's zero evidence."

 What the heck would/could Grusch be charged with if he spills ALL of the beans ALL at one time?

FWIW, all of this looks like it's taking a physical toll on Grusch's appearance.

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So ... Grusch says he knows.
The gooberment guy at the top of the food chain of UFOs says, "There's zero evidence."

 What the heck would/could Grusch be charged with if he spills ALL of the beans ALL at one time?

FWIW, all of this looks like it's taking a physical toll on Grusch's appearance.

After all the years of government lying why would anyone trust or believe anything the government representative like Kirkpatrick says ? It took a big pair for Grusch to come forward knowing he would be shit on by the government who would do everything within their power to ruin his life; lucky he went to a sympathetic I.G. or he would already be toast IMO.

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This conversation is more of a collaboration than a formal interview. Appearing on the Richard Dolan Show is Dr. Beatriz Villarroel, a leading astrophysicist at the Nordic Institute of Theoretical Physics, Stockholm University. Dr. Villarroel holds a PhD in Astronomy and a Masters in Physics from Uppsala University. Villarroel is deeply involved in the VASCO project, studying vanishing and appearing celestial sources over a century of observations. Dr. Villarroel discusses the discovery of anomalous astronomical plates from pre-1957, prior to the era of manmade, artificial satellites. Specifically she highlights plates from 1950 and 1952 which depict unusual star-like objects that appear and vanish within a very short time frame. These anomalies were found on images from the 12th of April, 1950, the 19th of July, 1952, and the 27th of July 1952 – the last two dates coinciding with the Washington DC UFO flap, a significant overflight of unknown objects over the US capital. However, Dr. Villaroelle also noted that coincident with these anomalies was the destruction of a substantial portion of the Harvard Observatory’s plate collection under the orders of then-director Dr. Donald Menzel. Not only this, but 1953 saw the beginning of the infamous “Menzel Gap,” an extended period during which Harvard ceased collecting new astronomical data, leading to a gap in the historical record of modern astronomy. Dr. Villarroel's work led Richard Dolan to conduct additional research on Menzel, which he also provides here. It was already known that Menzel led a clandestine life as an elite member of the U.S. intelligence community, a fact that was only discovered posthumously. Dolan’s review, however, demonstrates that Menzel spent all of 1952 and 1953 in nothing short of a debunking obsession regarding the "flying saucers." Even more intriguing, this period was also marked by ongoing rumors of “mystery satellites” orbiting Earth. All of the above leads to a question: was Menzel's obsession with UFOs the driving force behind this destruction of scientific data? His involvement in the intelligence community, his secretive life, and his relentless pursuit to debunk UFO sightings, all point towards a possible disinformation campaign, making Menzel a fascinating figure in the history of UFO research. Dr. Villarroel recently wrote an article for The Debrief: https://thedebrief.org/the-vanishing-... She was also recently mentioned in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2... Learn more about the VASCO project at http://www.vascoproject.org

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Dive into the heart of Colorado, a hotbed of extraterrestrial activity, on America's UFO Investigation with Ben Hansen. Witness firsthand accounts of UFO sightings, alien encounters, and the chilling mystery surrounding over 8000 cattle mutilations investigated by the FBI. Join investigator Katie Griboski, who brings forward reports of mutilated sheep, cows, horses, and dogs. Uncover theories, including military involvement in the unsettling cattle mutilations. Find out more about the Tic Tac UFO sightings and the disturbing removal of livestock organs. Are the greys creating an alien-human hybrid? Join us on Discovery Channel India for an extraordinary journey on America's UFO Investigation.

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Has anyone listened to...

Missing 411 David Paulides Presents Amnesia

Really fascinating & bizarre cases possibly connected to (alien) abductions that will leave you wondering just what the hell has and is going on. I been thinking about some of these cases all week. He's found cases meeting his profile going back 100 years to present. I've listened to all ten episodes so far and think he has found a new wrinkle in many of his missing 411 cases. A few remind me of the 2002 TV series Taken.

And related Amnesia series:

Missing 411 David Paulides Presents Missing Truckers Series

Good bedtime stories that are real and some cases downright frightening!

Highly recommend both series if you have the time.

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Flashback excerpts (9 min) from 'Indrid Cold' contactee Woodrow Derenberger (1972 interview), Bob Lazar (1991) and Bob Oechsler (1993) talk about how space travel works.