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300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting
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10-18-2023, 11:04 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-18-2023, 11:20 PM by EndtheMadnessNow.)
That's the largest bomb crater I ever seen in my life. Must've been a Hamas R&D nuke.
Guess the Brits are up next at the war room roundtable: Quote:UK PM Sunak to visit Israel on Thursday https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1714548529538953637 Early speculation on the calm before the storm from what Bibi Netanyahu has said will be a very long brutal war... Quote:Gaza Strip to shrink after war, says Israeli foreign minister US State Department report from 1988 details birth of Hamas. FUNDAMENTALISM AND THE INTIFADA: DEFINING THE ISSUES Israeli Defense Intelligence Chief Amos Yadlin in 2007: MILITARY INTELLIGENCE DIRECTOR YADLIN COMMENTS ON GAZA, SYRIA AND LEBANON Article from 2009 that has been recently updated: there are natural gas reserves at stake, which complicate the already complex religio-cultural geopolitics of the Middle East... Quote:Who Owns the Gas Fields Which of us would want to see the income from this treasure go to an opponent who has made his intention very clear by numerous statements or deeds that his goal is to wipe you out? Sooner or later some globalist group will start talking about an international solution to the whole mess, and an international authority for all that energy. Will probably be one of those high & mighty international authorities that are also in favor of "Green" & "NetZero" agenda. ETA: add-on to BIAD's post above: Hamas failed rocket launches: Apparently, a very common occurrence.
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." – Thomas Sowell
10-19-2023, 12:40 AM
The "Hospital" "attack" was planned and scripted by somebody. It was too easy and all the mass protests were too fast and too organized. I swear I saw an early report that said munitions were stored there, but heard nothing since.
When The Coconuts Fell
(10-19-2023, 12:40 AM)xuenchen Wrote: The "Hospital" "attack" was planned and scripted by somebody. It was too easy and all the mass protests were too fast and too organized. I swear I saw an early report that said munitions were stored there, but heard nothing since. You may be correct however I tend to believe it was faulty guidance with a missile supplied by Russia or Iran that went off course or typical bad aiming ! As far as the protest with everyone having a cell phone even though they have no running water or an out house to crap in they can communicate with all their like minded PLO members .. It does not take much to get them started as they are like dogs where one barks they all bark..
Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you’re wrong.
Silence those who disagree and you will never realize you are wrong. No one rules if no one obeys “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire
10-19-2023, 05:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-19-2023, 05:40 PM by EndtheMadnessNow.)
Warlog Update Thursday, Oct 19th::
U.S. State Department releases a rare "Worldwide Travel Alert": Worldwide Caution for Americans U.S. State Department has now urged all American Nationals in Lebanon to prepare to Immediately Depart the Country. US shipment of new armored vehicles for IDF arrives in Israel Israel has reportedly begun the process of Evacuating a number of its Embassies and Consulates across the Middle East including Bahrain and Egypt as well as Northern Africa with Diplomats claimed to be departing from Jordan, Turkey, and Morocco. US, UK and Germany tell citizens to leave Lebanon amid fears of wider conflict The "Hamas" Wing in Lebanon has claimed responsibility for the roughly 30 Rockets that have been launched towards Northern Israel within the last few hours. Heavy Fighting using Small-Arms, Mortars, and Anti-Tank Guided Missiles is reported, currently ongoing between Hezbollah and Israeli Forces near the Border with Southern Lebanon. The Egyptian Government is Demanding a "6-Hour Ceasefire” in Southern Gaza to allow the Transfer of Humanitarian Aid into the Strip from the Rafah Border Crossing, they are also asking for a Pledge from Israel to not Attack the Trucks carrying Aid "Under any Circumstances." Pentagon plans to send the two Iron Dome missile defense systems it had previously purchased from Israel back to that country to defend itself against inbound missiles. https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." – Thomas Sowell
Anybody know if Biden is the first President to go to a friendly allied country and announce aide for that country's enemy with their Flag in the scene? Brilliance brighter than The Sun
When The Coconuts Fell
10-20-2023, 02:45 AM
10-20-2023, 04:45 AM
US Navy ships deployed to the Eastern Mediterranean 2023:
USS Mount Whitney (LCC 20) USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) - First in class nuclear powered aircraft carrier. Embarked airwing comprised of ~70 aircraft of varying types. USS Normandy (CG 60) - Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruiser (Part of the Ford CSG) USS Ramage (DDG 61) - Flight I Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyer (Part of the Ford CSG) USS Carney (DDG 64) - Flight I Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyer (Attached to the Ford CSG) Used SM-2 missiles to shoot down 3 missiles fired by Houthi's in Yemen on Oct 19, 2023. USS Rossevelt (DDG 80) - Flight IIA Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyer (Attached to the Ford CSG) Forward deployed to Naval Station Rota, Spain. USS Thomas Hudner (DDG 116) - Flight IIA Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyer (Part of Ford CSG) DDG Armament: Mk.41 Vertical Launching System / VLS (1 forward / 1 aft = 96 cells) for a mix of: BGM-109 Tomahawk (several variations including nuclear) RIM-66 Standard Missile SM-2MR RIM-67/RIM-156 Standard Missile SM-2ER RIM-161 Standard Missile SM-3 RIM-174 Standard ERAM RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow (ESSM) (DDG-79 onwards) RUM-139 Vertical Launch ASROC (Lockheed Anti-submarine Rocket) 1 x Mk.45 (Mod.4) 5”/62-caliber gun (DDG-81 onwards) 2 x Mk.32 surface vessel torpedo tubes (SVTT) for 6 Mk.46, Mk.50 or Mk.54 torpedos The Navy has not disclosed the submarines taking part in this operation but I'd bet there are at least two attack and one guided missile sub in the region. By this time next week the following will be in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea: USS Mount Whitney (6th Fleet Flagship) 2 Aircraft Carriers (Ford on station now; Eisenhower next week) 2 Guided Missile Cruisers 7 Guided Missile Destroyers 1 Amphibious Assault Ship 1 Dock Landing Ship 1 Landing Platform Dock Ship and a few battalions of Marines. Massive building demolition in Gaza last night... 30 sec IDF video Before the current Israeli attacks, the number of housing units in the Gaza and North Gaza governorates was estimated to be around 260,000. Euro-Med Monitor has documented that approximately 52,000 housing units are now destroyed or severely damaged by Israeli airstrikes. Deja vu - America had that same unity in 2002. PM Netanyahu and British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak Issue Statements Do not resist, we are just the agents of a national rejuvenation.
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." – Thomas Sowell
10-20-2023, 06:52 PM
Warlog Update for TGIF, Oct 20th::
According to Israeli officials, the 2 Americans who have been released by Hamas are 59 year old Yehudit Ra'anan and her 18 year old daughter, Nathalie Shathogug who are both from Chicago, Illinois and were kidnapped by Hamas while visiting their grandmother in the town of Nahal Oz near the Gaza Strip. They just arrived back in Israel. Western presstitutes are saying they were released on "humanitarian grounds" which is total BS. Out of the 471 Israeli civilians living in Nahal Oz at least 130 were shot and/or kidnapped by the roughly 20 terrorists who attacked the town. The IDF has announced that they have successfully assassinated the senior engineer and head of the Projects and Development Department of Hamas, Mahmoud Zavih, who was apparently instrumental in the Research and Development of Rocket and Drone Technology used by the Hamas. While the world was in lockdown for ~2 years these guys were busy. The Israeli Minister of Defense, Yoav Gallant announced the plan for a 3-Phased War against Hamas in the Gaza Strip during a Meeting today consisting of Members of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee: (Current) Phase 1: A Military Campaign by Fire and later by Tactical Ground Maneuver, the Goal of which will be to Assassinate Operatives and Damage Infrastructure in order to Destroy the Hamas Organization in the Gaza Strip. Phase 2: Continued Fighting at a Lower Intensity throughout the Gaza Strip and Beyond. Phase 3: The eventual Creation of a New Security Regime in the Gaza Strip and the Removal of Israel's Responsibility for Life and Security in the Strip as well as the Creation of a New Safe Reality for the Citizens of Israel. Ok, since that was announced publicly, were left to wonder what is the real plan? The Greek-Orthodox Church of Saint Porphyrius, the oldest active church in the city having opened in 1150, which was claimed to have been targeted last night by an Israeli Airstrikes now appears to have only suffered moderate damage and was not the actual target of the Strike; the target building was a location next to the church complex which partially-collapsed onto a section of the church following the attack. The Interior Minister of Germany, Nancy Faeser has stated today that Hamas propaganda will not be tolerated in Germany and that their supporters should be arrested and deported from the country. Based on war history, I would not be surprised if this is true... Quote:This is the drug Hamas terrorists took to help them slaughter Israelis Iran's 'Axis of Resistance'- an umbrella term which refers to a range of militia groups which are located throughout the region and maintained by the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Quds Force - the external operations branch of the Iranian armed forces. IRGC Commander of Aerospace Force, Brig. Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh standing in front of their proxy militias flags. Photo is from Jan 2020. The flags were of sectarian Shiite militias that support Iran’s regime from Arab and other neighboring countries. They included the Pakistani Zainabiyoun militia in Syria, the Afghan Fatemiyoun militia in Syria, the (non-Shiite) Hamas movement of Palestine, the Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) of Iraq, the Ansarullah militia of Yemen (the Houthis), and Hezbollah of Lebanon. The three other flags were those of the Iranian Air Force, Aerospace Force and the flag of Iran.
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." – Thomas Sowell
10-20-2023, 08:25 PM
This could easily spiral out of control, and nobody won't be able to stop it.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/171545...96401?s=20 OSINTdefender Multiple U.S. Defense Officials are now reporting that the Interceptions over the Red Sea almost 2 Nights Ago by the USS Carney (DDG-64) were much more Significant than had previously been stated, with the Destroyer said to have Intercepted at least 4 Land-Attack Cruise Missiles and 15 Drones launched by the Houthis in Yemen all within a 9-Hour Period, in which the “Targets” were Detected following the Coast with Saudi Arabia in the Red Sea and were clearly Aimed at Israel.
10-21-2023, 12:54 AM
Turkey Naval maneuvers and US carrier task force. So far looks like American policy is caving in to Turkey..
Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you’re wrong.
Silence those who disagree and you will never realize you are wrong. No one rules if no one obeys “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire (10-21-2023, 12:54 AM)727Sky Wrote: Turkey Naval maneuvers and US carrier task force. So far looks like American policy is caving in to Turkey.. The U.S. should make a counter-statement to Turkey: "S'ok if Turkey doesn't want to take responsibility for their actions. We understand what it's like to be ball-less. So, in that vein, Turkey doesn't have to take any responsibility for 'accidents' - we will utterly and completely... but [i]accidentally[/i}... obliterate any ships firing upon U.S. vessels, no matter who they may be. That 'accidental' shit can go two ways, boys." Then go to the NATO council and announce "Turkey has made a veiled threat on the U.S. Decide now which you want to retain in NATO. If you don't want us, we can be out of the agreement by tomorrow morning, and have our troops and weapons removed from your countries, and our bases leveled to the bare ground they started on, within one month. So what's it gonna be? Do you prefer us assisting in your defense, or would you rather have Turkey assisting you against their good buddies in the Kremlin? You only get one, so choose wisely. We've got a border that needs to be secured anyhow, so we could really use those troops and materiel back home instead of wasting it all on folks that don't even want us as an ally." .
10-21-2023, 02:41 AM
(10-21-2023, 01:16 AM)Ninurta Wrote:Letting any Muslim country into your defense plan is just asking to be back stabbed or shot by supposedly Muslim friendlies !(10-21-2023, 12:54 AM)727Sky Wrote: Turkey Naval maneuvers and US carrier task force. So far looks like American policy is caving in to Turkey..
Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you’re wrong.
Silence those who disagree and you will never realize you are wrong. No one rules if no one obeys “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire
10-21-2023, 03:25 AM
(10-21-2023, 12:54 AM)727Sky Wrote: Turkey Naval maneuvers and US carrier task force. So far looks like American policy is caving in to Turkey.. Always had that nagging question on why is Turkey a NATO member. ___________________________________________________ https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/17...1427281361 MSM update to the USS Carney missile shoot-down... Quote:CNN — A US warship that intercepted drones and missiles near the coast of Yemen on Thursday encountered a larger and more sustained barrage than was previously known, shooting down 4 cruise missiles and 15 drones over a period of 9 hours, according to a US official familiar with the situation.Must of been an intense 9hr GQ. Hamas must have a subterranean rail tunnel clear to Iran. This guy, Israel Ambassador to the United Nations is a good actor when you hear him speak live. He can deliver hard charging remarks...
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." – Thomas Sowell
10-21-2023, 05:52 AM
Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you’re wrong.
Silence those who disagree and you will never realize you are wrong. No one rules if no one obeys “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire
10-21-2023, 08:43 PM
Warlog Update for Saturday, Oct 21th::
Quote:Official IDF Daily UpdateMore: IDF newsletter Ha, sounds about right... Soon... https://twitter.com/USFleetForces/status...2545762552
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." – Thomas Sowell
10-21-2023, 10:13 PM
Human Rights investigators analysing the available data from the Hospital strike say indications from doppler sound tracking analysis from the video of the strike indicated the missile came from the East and not West as claimed by the IDF , imagery of the crater seems to back that analysis up , analysis of the audio of the alleged conversation between the two militants released by the IDF as part of their "evidence" is of two different conversations edited together using an audio workstation.
10-21-2023, 10:21 PM
(10-21-2023, 12:54 AM)727Sky Wrote: Turkey Naval maneuvers and US carrier task force. So far looks like American policy is caving in to Turkey.. I have to ask but does Turkey have any nuclear missile subs like we do? Our carrier groups NEVER move without sub support and i bet you alot of turkish ships would litter the ocean floor if they"accidentally" hit one of our ships. (10-21-2023, 10:13 PM)gortex Wrote: Human Rights investigators analysing the available data from the Hospital strike say indications from doppler sound tracking analysis from the video of the strike indicated the missile came from the East and not West as claimed by the IDF , imagery of the crater seems to back that analysis up , analysis of the audio of the alleged conversation between the two militants released by the IDF as part of their "evidence" is of two different conversations edited together using an audio workstation. Hey, Gortex good to see you here... Wasn't the original "official" portrayal the missile hit the hospital directly it was destroyed and there were 500 deaths of innocent Gazans? I say this with the complete realization that the proportionality here is out of whack , while understanding Israel is still getting attacked for Hezbollah and elsewhere as well as launches from within Gaza. All the while only 2 hostages have been released. You can't hold innocent civilians while shooting missiles and attacking on all sides and expect Israel to stand down. It can't be shown that anybody gets a reprieve when you kidnap and take civilians hostage. Again I don't agree with the proportionality but I understand where this has put Israel at.
10-22-2023, 12:33 AM
Well,
Turkey will join with Russia and half the middle eastern nations against Israel. It is prophesized in Ezekiel 38-39
And if you will confess with your mouth our Lord Yeshua, and you will believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall have life.
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