(10-31-2024, 07:52 AM)Freija Wrote: What has our nation become?

That’s a good question when a grifting, mentally declining old man with dubious moral values and two previous impeachments, 34 felony convictions, multiple pending indictments, accused rapist and grabber of pussies not to mention a sad and sore loser who thinks this country is garbage and veterans are losers with the worst running mate ever is even allowed to run for president. It boggles the mind.

I voted last week.



Did you or do you even?

(10-31-2024, 08:35 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(10-31-2024, 07:52 AM)Freija Wrote: What has our nation become?

That’s a good question when a grifting, mentally declining old man with dubious moral values and two previous impeachments, 34 felony convictions, multiple pending indictments, accused rapist and grabber of pussies not to mention a sad and sore loser who thinks this country is garbage and veterans are losers with the worst running mate ever is even allowed to run for president. It boggles the mind.

I voted last week.



Did you or do you even?

Yup, I vote, although this may be the last election I vote in, if I have to secede, then it wouldn't be right to vote in other folks' elections. I didn't vote last week, because Election Day hasn't come to Virginia yet - what time zone do you live in that you can vote before all the information is in?

It's hard to tell which "old man" you're referring to. Some of that seems to fit the narrative being pushed on Trump, some of it seems to fit the narrative being pushed on Biden, and some of it seems to fit Harris. For example, Walz is the worst running mate in history, but his running mate is Harris - and she doesn't look that much like a man, although the old part is debatable. And the "garbage" comment was actually spoken by Biden, not either Trump or Harris. I reckon he reneged on that "I'll bring America back together" promise, and told Killary to hold his beer while he upstaged her "basket of deplorables" comment by calling at least half the country "garbage".

Here it is, in living color, along with Trumps response of "fuck you, and why should we give a damn about your senile opinion anyhow" troll:





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(10-31-2024, 08:55 AM)727Sky Wrote: That was a typical MSN/CNN response especially the 34 lawfare felonies. .... anyone who can not see past the propaganda is to far gone to argue with IMO.

Quote:Key Takeaways From Vance’s 3-Hour Interview With Joe Rogan
The Republican vice presidential nominee noted the many changes that have occurred for his family since he became a candidate.

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Podcaster Joe Rogan on Oct. 31 released a roughly three-and-a-half-hour interview with Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), former President Donald Trump’s running mate.
During the interview, Rogan and Vance touched on a variety of topics related both to politics and Vance’s personal life. Here are the biggest takeaways from the podcast.
How Trump Chose Him
Near the start of the interview, Vance discussed how he was selected to be Trump’s running mate—and how it’s changed his and his family’s life.
Vance said he didn’t learn that Trump had picked him until July 15, the first day of the Republican National Convention. That day, he said he missed Trump’s first effort to call him as he was playing with his children.
A few minutes later, he realized that he had missed the call and called Trump back.
“Hey, sir, what’s going on?” Vance recalled saying.
He said Trump replied: “JD, you’ve just missed a very important phone call. I’m gonna have to pick someone else.”
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Vance said he began to panic, only for Trump to say: “No, I’m just kidding. Obviously, I want you to be my vice president.”
Vance said the call wasn’t a total surprise; by that point, he believed he had about a 60 percent chance of being picked for the No. 2 job.
Though Vance has been a U.S. Senator since 2023, he said he was able to remain somewhat anonymous most of the time—people often had no idea who he was.
“It’s definitely weird just not being anonymous at all anymore,” Vance said.
He noted the many changes that have occurred for his family since he became a candidate: his child’s schoolmates have started a game called “boss man” where they pretend to be Secret Service agents; Vance can’t drive his family around anymore; and he receives both praise and condemnation from people in public.
“There are a lot of benefits to it. There’s a lot of downsides to it,” Vance said. “It’s what I asked for. I don’t have to think too much about it or complain too much about it. I just try to accept it.”
Vance Skeptical of Money in Politics
Vance described how the Republican Party was changing under Trump—particularly in relation to its attitude toward corporations and money in politics.
Vance and Rogan discussed a variety of controversial social issues—transgenderism, environmentalism, Big Tech, and the pharmaceutical industry—that Vance said are all influenced by money.
Vance has often outlined a unique position on economic issues that aligns more closely with populism than with 20th-century Republican positions. He’s expressed support for unions in principle; he’s often critical of corporate and elite institutions; he’s pushed for state policies to incentivize the creation of families.
Once, Vance said, Republicans were openly the party of corporations. Since Trump’s entry into the party in 2016, however, Vance said that Republicans are now more willing to ask “Is this corporation’s interest in the American people’s interest?”
When evaluating other social movements, Vance said that people need to apply more scrutiny to their potential hidden motives.
For instance, he noted that transgender drugs and operations are profitable to the pharmaceutical industry, as were COVID-19 vaccines—particularly because pharmaceutical companies are given broad immunity from liability for adverse reactions.
“We should just ask ourselves, ‘Who’s getting rich from this stuff?’ Maybe we should be skeptical of people getting rich from this stuff,” Vance said.
“The whole conduit of money into politics is fundamentally broken, we have to fix that.”
Vance Confirms Chinese Cellphone Hack
Reports citing anonymous sources last week suggested that hackers linked to the Chinese Communist Party may have targeted Trump and Vance, although the FBI and the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) could only confirm the hackers’ origin, not the victims.
The senator confirmed on Thursday that his and Trump’s cellphones had likely been compromised.
The exchange followed a question from Rogan about the United States’s vulnerability to cyber attacks.
“We do have a real problem … my phone was allegedly hacked by Chinese hackers,” Vance said.
Rogan asked the senator if the hack exposed anything critical on his phone, but Vance said he would have to wait and find out, although he uses message encryption, which prevented the hackers from seeing his private messages.
Vance said he learned that his and Trump’s phones were hacked due to telecommunications infrastructure that was implemented following the Patriot Act.
“What I’ve been told is that that infrastructure was used by this Chinese hacker organization called Salt Typhoon, and that’s how they got into the Verizon network, and that’s how they got into the AT&T network,” Vance said.
Vance’s claims could not be independently verified by The Epoch Times.
The CISA declined to comment on the matter.
The Epoch Times also requested comment from the FBI and Justice Department and received no response by publication time.
Abortion
The two also discussed abortion. Vance said he and Trump want to make it a state issue—so California can make its own laws while Alabama can do the same. Trump recently said he would veto a national abortion ban if Congress sent one to his desk. Vice President Kamala Harris has accused Trump of lying and has used the 2022 Supreme Court Dobbs decision to mobilize women voters.
Rogan said he worries that some states with strict bans could put women in “very vulnerable positions” if they seek care across state lines, and face potential legal consequences when they return home. The host also said the “life begins at conception” position is rooted in religion, and is concerned about that dictating “whether or not a person can legally travel to another state.”
Vance said he is not aware of laws that could do that, but nonetheless disagrees with arresting women seeking abortions.
“I think I’m trying to be fair to both sides here [and] balance the interest in life against the interest in autonomy,” Vance said, adding that “pro-life” people need to be “pro-family” beyond just being “pro-birth.”
During a Pennsylvania rally on Oct. 30, Vance said that he had sat down with Rogan for four hours earlier the same day. He used the opportunity to criticize Vice President Kamala Harris for not taking part in more interviews.
Harris has also been in communication with Rogan about joining his program, though her campaign has made demands Rogan is currently unwilling to accommodate. Rogan has left the door open to a later interview.

(10-31-2024, 04:43 AM)727Sky Wrote: A fair election my butt probably about as fair as the last one ?! The steal is happening and what gets me is they are to stupid to even conceal their 3d world communist corrupt B.S.  Or they know no matter what they can get away with it !

(10-31-2024, 04:43 AM)727Sky Wrote: A fair election my butt probably about as fair as the last one ?! The steal is happening and what gets me is they are to stupid to even conceal their 3d world communist corrupt B.S.  Or they know no matter what they can get away with it !

(10-31-2024, 07:23 AM)Ninurta Wrote: I'm too old to fight big wars any more. All I can do is secede from the US, my little patch of heaven here, and wait for them to come and un-secede me.

(11-01-2024, 11:44 PM)xuenchen Wrote: The U.S. is becoming a real Mob-Rule true Democracy where corruption is King and dumbfuckedness is the normal 

(11-01-2024, 11:57 PM)727Sky Wrote:

(11-01-2024, 11:44 PM)xuenchen Wrote: The U.S. is becoming a real Mob-Rule true Democracy where corruption is King and dumbfuckedness is the normal 

Fake but to good to not pass on.... https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2f1a-1791.com%2fvideo%2fs8%2f2%2fP%2fD%2f3%2f6%2fPD36t.caa.mp4%3fb%3d1%26amp%3bu%3dummtf&c=E,1,kDiI-mT7-rHyDqWnIjCHqkbpooQ6zhQ7tchhYilTU_EqIqZNrZ_bzkJXveAWEWr5qsH4GkZ-AUBXeBAwkYm57WWftRBhPpkcBtN_EE8PtcvKkQDaSRo,&typo=1&ancr_add=1

(11-01-2024, 11:24 PM)MrJesterium Wrote: Yeah, they're not even trying to hide it.

Also, I don't think their agenda should be labelled as communist, that seems unfair, it's much worse than what the Soviets had. Last week, I went through the list of presidental candidates, only the socialist candidates stood out with a superb community service track record and actually addressed prevailing social conditions (the other parties were just making promises or they're claiming to be the "only" party that can save us), but the likelihood of America turning communist is actually slim to none. It's insufficient to speak up for only the working class, it's why communism is too outdated.

Quote:Yeah, this could be the last official election, either Democrats or Trump will make a move to seize power by unlawful means. A German contact told me about the situation in Germany:

"If fascists are resurfacing they do so in the manner of defending democracy, which is happening in thuringia atm. 1/3rd of the voters atm are without any precursors robbed of their vote, as a democratic voted for party is robbed of their rights, and the voters are stigmatized at the same."

"As for the AFD, I am no fan of them, but the Green Party the SPD, the CDU and the leftists atm try to supress it by force and by breaking established laws."

(11-01-2024, 11:32 PM)MrJesterium Wrote: Texas might be worth keeping an eye on, they have a history of attempts to secede from  the US. Texans make a huge deal out of independence and are proud of their past.  If a civil war breaks out, it'll likely be first fought in Texas.

An American guy with a military schooling and who grew up in Texas, told me, "I would strongly guess Houston... Maybe one of the cities along the I-35 corridor. Could be a smaller place, like Waco or Killeen/Temple, or one of the major cities like Ft. Worth. I’ll say Ft. Worth as a second guess."

I don't think it'll be in big cities like Houston or Austin, but definitely near a military base.