(07-19-2023, 08:17 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(07-19-2023, 06:26 PM)Kenzo Wrote: i dont know what form or supplement you will have but could start just 3 or 6 mg / day and keep it at least few days, then every new week could raise the dosage.

Here's what's arrived:
Lugol's Solution 2%
Selenium 200mcg

This stuff'll be here Friday:
Vitamin B2 100mg
Vitamin B3 500mg (Niacin Inositol Hexanicotinate)
Magnesium Powder
Unrefined Sea Salt

If this stuff makes me feel ill, how long will it last if I just stop taking it?

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(07-17-2023, 06:24 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Watch the selenium, you don't want to get too much in one day ... about 500 mcg IIRC.

I take it for a thyroid condition.

Hypo or Hyper? I am Hypo and I couldn't figure out what the effect might be from the videos I listened to.

(07-17-2023, 06:24 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: One thing, it will boost one's metabolism.  If one is looking to lose weight, try 200 mcg a day for a month.

Food:  Brazil nuts have varying amounts of selenium, but sometimes a single nut has a huge dose, so watch consumption of those.

Bonus!! Though, I haven't seen a Brazil nut for the past 8 years.

Quote:The median habitual iodine intake was shown to around 850 to 1000 μg/day and a review estimated that the iodine intake for Japanese individuals was 1000 to 3000 μg/day [9, 10]. According to the Dietary Reference Intakes 2015 for Japanese (DRI) [11], the tolerable upper intake level (UL) is set as 3000 μg/day in Japan, which is higher than that of other countries (e.g., the UL for American adults is 1100 μg/day

(07-20-2023, 09:48 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Without the selenium, I get tired easily and lack energy.

(07-20-2023, 09:48 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Doctor did tell me to take the selenium for three months and then go one month without it.  I guess too much can accumulate in the body (or something).

(07-21-2023, 03:02 AM)Snarl Wrote:

(07-20-2023, 09:48 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Without the selenium, I get tired easily and lack energy.

I PMd Kenzo before checking the thread. Told him I could feel the Selenium kick my metabolism up a notch. 

Hopefully I'll sleep good tonight. I came in pretty darned bushed. Not to mention an @"dbcowboy"#133 approved Bourbon supplement.

(07-20-2023, 09:48 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Doctor did tell me to take the selenium for three months and then go one month without it.  I guess too much can accumulate in the body (or something).

I read that taking Selenium when you're Hypo can lead to some problems. The least of which is going really Hypo. Other times it can be the lead-in to a surgical adventure. All seems to be mitigated if you take Iodine and Selenium together.

Everything is just fine. I'm going to double my Iodine uptake tomorrow a.m. to 25mcg ... see how that goes ... then do 50mcg on Saturday, 100mcg on Sunday and top-end @ 150mcg for 90 days. I figure as long as I've got the Selenium and I can keep my kidneys flushing, I should be right in the groove for this little test. Never hurts to see what real science can be done all by one's self. If this works, I want to share what I learn with my daughter. And, if all goes really really well, maybe she'll make me a grandpa finally.

(07-21-2023, 06:14 AM)Kenzo Wrote:

(07-21-2023, 03:02 AM)Snarl Wrote: Everything is just fine. I'm going to double my Iodine uptake tomorrow a.m. to 25mcg ... see how that goes ... then do 50mcg on Saturday, 100mcg on Sunday and top-end @ 150mcg for 90 days.

In early 1900s or so people had more iodine , just because World did not yet had fluoride and bromine messing up against it, and food also most likely had more iodine .

(07-21-2023, 12:30 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(07-21-2023, 06:14 AM)Kenzo Wrote:

(07-21-2023, 03:02 AM)Snarl Wrote: Everything is just fine. I'm going to double my Iodine uptake tomorrow a.m. to 25mcg ... see how that goes ... then do 50mcg on Saturday, 100mcg on Sunday and top-end @ 150mcg for 90 days.

In early 1900s or so people had more iodine , just because World did not yet had fluoride and bromine messing up against it, and food also most likely had more iodine .

Main effort for me is the detox process. Those high dose rates should do it and I see no reason to pussy-foot around. Easing one's way into it sounds bassackwards. LOL


Ingesting the salt has been the hardest part so far.

(07-27-2023, 02:04 PM)Kenzo Wrote: Btw some cultures in World drink daily tea with salt , yes salt ...not sugar. this old tradition is in somewhere East...China-Tibet-Kashmir- Nepal or somewhere there.

some like potato have huge amounts of potassium , orange juice also .

(07-27-2023, 03:01 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(07-27-2023, 02:04 PM)Kenzo Wrote: Btw some cultures in World drink daily tea with salt , yes salt ...not sugar. this old tradition is in somewhere East...China-Tibet-Kashmir- Nepal or somewhere there.

some like potato have huge amounts of potassium , orange juice also .

There was a lady who added salt to the coffee up at Fort Monmouth. Nothing could be done to make her stop. Eventually, it was her undoing.

After the salt, I drink a full glass of water and then fill another glass and keep it nearby. At some point between the two I'll get a glass of orange juice just to moderate everything else that seems to be going on.

I always keep a two fresh gallons of water on the tractor. I'm starting to drink them now. LMAO Had one of the neighbors let me know they saw me standing on the deck taking a leak. But, I'll tell ya, you're drinking that much liquid ... it's gotta come out too.

(07-27-2023, 03:32 PM)Kenzo Wrote: Interestingly, some new research actually says that salt is not so bad, there has been campaign to demonize salt too much IMO. The white table salt is bad, but unrefined sea salt or Himalayan salt is healthy with right daily dosages.

(07-27-2023, 03:53 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(07-27-2023, 03:32 PM)Kenzo Wrote: Interestingly, some new research actually says that salt is not so bad, there has been campaign to demonize salt too much IMO. The white table salt is bad, but unrefined sea salt or Himalayan salt is healthy with right daily dosages.

When I saw the salt requirement I pulled out the blood pressure machine. No significant rise or fall.

I do question white table salt being bad for you. When you think about the chemistry of it, we're looking at NaCl. If anything, one would have to question the composition of the 'unrefined' nature of the sea salt.

Wife has always rebuked me for adding table salt (even if it is Himalayan) to her cooking.  I've just always liked salty food.

(07-27-2023, 05:18 PM)Kenzo Wrote: Two doctors discuss about salt intake



Coffee seem to cause rabid depletion of both sodium and chloride wow!  and i am back with coffee...and drinking it quite many per day.

(07-31-2023, 11:39 AM)Snarl Wrote:

(07-27-2023, 05:18 PM)Kenzo Wrote: Two doctors discuss about salt intake



Coffee seem to cause rabid depletion of both sodium and chloride wow!  and i am back with coffee...and drinking it quite many per day.

Woke up Saturday and it felt like my mouth was filled with salt while I slept. Almost felt like I had been pranked.

Speaking of salt. I'm done trying to one-shot that stuff. Now mixing it with about 3X as much water and taking a swig of it "now and again". Probably takes five good slugs to get it all down. Just easier for me. I'll drink at least two full glasses of filtered water while this goes on. I point this out because it's more time consuming.

As for the Iodine: Not so carefully measuring it out anymore. Probably putting 48 drops (four squeezes on the eyedropper) into two gulps of water.

Had been getting my Vitamin C from a 500mg chewable. Too much glucose associated with that. Feet and ankles started to swell. Switched over to a 1g tablet.

@"Kenzo"#96 : Yep, I like my coffee too.  

Thanks for sharing the stuff you've picked up on. I look at all of it thoroughly.

(07-31-2023, 05:41 PM)Kenzo Wrote:

(07-31-2023, 11:39 AM)Snarl Wrote: Thanks for sharing the stuff you've picked up on. I look at all of it thoroughly.

At some point when the bromine levels feels lower could start lower salt IMO ... I don't know when exactly is that moment as everyone is individual with own levels and timing and depends how much iodine/day.

Oh you are already in big doses, you don't waste much time with it do you

(08-01-2023, 03:26 AM)Snarl Wrote:

(07-31-2023, 05:41 PM)Kenzo Wrote:

(07-31-2023, 11:39 AM)Snarl Wrote: Thanks for sharing the stuff you've picked up on. I look at all of it thoroughly.

At some point when the bromine levels feels lower could start lower salt IMO ... I don't know when exactly is that moment as everyone is individual with own levels and timing and depends how much iodine/day.

Oh you are already in big doses, you don't waste much time with it do you

I remember you warned about starting to smell bad from detoxing bromine. I noticed it today ... in my slippers. My feet don't stink (normally). Let's hope this doesn't get any worse.

Quote:In numerous studies, iodine supplementation has been found to significantly increase urinary detoxification of both fluoride and bromide,5 thus taking a significant toxic load off the thyroid. In one study, only one day after supplementing with 50mg of iodine, urinary excretion of bromide increased by nearly 50% and fluoride by 78%.6, 7

Quote:Banned Brominated Vegetable Oil in Popular Drinks and Soda
Written By: Gloria Tsang, RD
Last Updated on: 03/04/2021
Have you heard of brominated vegetable oil, or BVO? If you drink sports drinks like Gatorade or sodas like Mountain Dew, you might want to learn more about this controversial ingredient that’s used in American products but is banned in Japan and the European Union.

What is BVO?
BVO is a food additive made from vegetable oil with the chemical bromine bonded to the oil. It’s used in several popular sports drinks and sodas to keep the flavor well blended throughout the drink rather than floating to the top. It’s a controversial ingredient because bromine is used as a flame retardant, and because excessive consumption can cause some serious health effects.
Potential Health Effects of BVO
Most toxicology studies on BVO were conducted in the 1970s and ’80s on rats. All of the studies showed adverse effects. A 1970 UK study actually concluded “the high bromine levels found in the fat of tissues from UK children are due to the use of these compounds [brominated vegetable oils].”
A 1997 study documented a case in which a patient developed the condition of bromism from drinking at least two litres of cola every day. The patient complained of headache, fatigue, and memory loss. Neurological problems and a deteriorated nervous system eventually led to an inability to walk. This patient eventually needed hemodialysis, a treatment usually used for kidney failure.
BVO has been banned in the UK since 1970, later on in the EU, and most recently in Japan. Both the United States and Canada still approve this additive in our food. In countries where BVO is banned, natural hydrocolloids are used as a substitute.
Why is BVO in the News?
BVO has been used in soft drinks since 1931 – so why is it making headlines now? Much of the attention is due to an online petition on Change.org started by Mississippi teenager Sarah Kananagh, who was upset to find her favorite Orange Gatorade contained BVO. Sarah’s petition asking Gatorade to remove the ingredient got more than 200,000 signatures. On January 25, Gatorade announced that it would stop using BVO in its drinks, and said it was making the move in response to consumer demand.
What Drinks Contain BVO?
Gatorade may be moving to eliminate BVO, but you can still find it in many soft drinks, especially ones that are citrus flavored. It’s tricky to compile a complete list because there are so many generic brands whose ingredients are hard to track. Check the label of any soft drinks or sports drinks you’re thinking of buying to be sure.
Drinks Known to Contain BVO
Does your favorite drink contain the controversial ingredient BVO? Here is a list drinks that contain BVO currently available on the market.

• Amp Energy Drink
  
• Fanta
  
• Fresca
  
• Mountain Dew
  
• Powerade (some flavors, including Strawberry Lemonade)
  
• Squirt
  
• Sun Drop
  
• Sunkist Pineapple
  

… and, until new versions hit the shelves, some flavors of Gatorade, including Orange.
The Bottom Line
This is just one more reason to avoid sodas and sports drinks, which are also full of sugar (or artificial sweeteners) and empty calories. If you stick to natural drinks like water, tea, or coffee, you don’t need to worry about the latest chemical ingredient scare.

Gloria Tsang, RD
Gloria Tsang is the author of 5 books and the founder of HealthCastle.com, the largest online nutrition network run by registered dietitians. Her work has appeared in major national publications, and she is a regularly featured nutrition expert for media outlets across the country. The Huffington Post named her one of its Top 20 Nutrition Experts on Twitter. Gloria’s articles have appeared on various media such as Reuters, NBC & ABC affiliates, The Chicago Sun-Times, Reader’s Digest Canada, iVillage and USA Today.