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WOW! PURE EVIL!
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12-07-2023, 02:17 AM
Just an update on world news and bible prophecy for those interested
 WOW! PURE EVIL!
And if you will confess with your mouth our Lord Yeshua, and you will believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall have life.
12-08-2023, 01:03 AM
Satanic Temple launching an abortion clinic? I'm surprised they haven't done that already! Just think of it - human sacrifice/ Moloch-level child sacrifice on an industrial scale! I'm just wondering why it took this long for them to think that one up - they wouldn't even have to hide in groves in the woods or dark caverns! They can just do it right here in front of god and everybody and get away with it!
What makes this different from the run-of-the-mill abortion mill is that they specify, and the lady interviewed said several times, that it is a "religious abortion ritual", and that her services were open to anyone "wishing to partake in the religious abortion ritual". Child sacrifice to Moloch was also "a religious ritual sacrifice", so, same-same.
12-09-2023, 12:49 AM
But they say "We really don't worship Satan, promise (wink)"
And if you will confess with your mouth our Lord Yeshua, and you will believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall have life.
12-09-2023, 03:00 AM
(12-08-2023, 01:03 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Satanic Temple launching an abortion clinic? I'm surprised they haven't done that already! Just think of it - human sacrifice/ Moloch-level child sacrifice on an industrial scale! I'm just wondering why it took this long for them to think that one up - they wouldn't even have to hide in groves in the woods or dark caverns! They can just do it right here in front of god and everybody and get away with it! We had one not too far from here. The proprietors up and disappeared like a fart in the wind one day. Their abandoned property was processed in record speed. The new owners put up rows and columns of simple white crosses ... but someone must have made them take them down. Never considered the human sacrifice possibility. I never have claimed to be a 'fast' thinker though. 
12-09-2023, 04:12 AM
Oh JFC! Calm the hell down.
As much as I try to avoid posting in threads by this particular OP, this is the Satanic Temple, not the Church of Satan. They do not worship the devil or sacrifice babies and their "beliefs" are non-theistic and non-supernaturalist. Their mission statement: Quote:The Mission Of The Satanic Temple Is To Encourage Benevolence And Empathy, Reject Tyrannical Authority, Advocate Practical Common Sense, Oppose Injustice, And Undertake Noble Pursuits. These guys crack me up and I wholeheartedly support some of their antics and political activism especially when it triggers religious fundies, the holier than thou types and those crying for "religious freedom" but only when it pertains to their religion. The Satanic Temple exists mainly to poke the bear. Remember that statue of Baphomet they commissioned a few years back? LOL ! here are a few of their other ongoing campaigns And here are their seven fundamental tenets which i have posted before when I researched this organization: I am happy to see their work is still pissing people off. Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
12-09-2023, 05:21 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-09-2023, 05:32 AM by Infolurker.)
Wink Wink
That is like saying a group wearing Nazi uniforms giving the Nazi salute and screaming Heil Hitler while flying Nazi swastika flags are not really Nazi's because they say they don't really believe in what the Nazi's stand for and it is just counter - culture symbolism....... Yeah, right... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65549975 Quote:In a candle-lit room set aside for Satanic ceremonies, a neon sign welcomes you to The Little Black Chapel. A raised altar stands at one end, a white pentagram on the floor in front of it.
And if you will confess with your mouth our Lord Yeshua, and you will believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall have life.
12-09-2023, 12:10 PM
(12-09-2023, 04:12 AM)Freija Wrote: Oh JFC! Calm the hell down. You don't say! So the gal from the Satanic Temple was lying to us, and they're not really setting up abortion clinics? You know - the ones she said (not me, her) would provide "religious abortion rituals"? Are you telling me that a Satanist would LIE to us? Perish the thought! Quote:Their mission statement: That's cute! I can do that too - just watch me! "If I'm elected president, there will be a chicken in every pot and every child will have their very own pony!" There's my "mission statement" - how well do you think that will conform to reality? I won't presume to assume whether or not you have ever dealt with an actual Satanist, as opposed to what they tell us on the internet. I mean a real, live, dyed in the wool Satanist, up close and personal. less than spitting distance. I have, but I have no idea if you ever have or not. I will tell you flat out that they are not as the packaging labels them. Not by a long shot. I had a hell of a run with some in eastern Virginia several years ago. They lost in the end, but it was still a fun run for a while. They can worship (or not) whomever they want. I don't care so long as it's not infringing on other folks. However, when it comes to killing folks that have done them no hurt, they're going to find the occasional blockage in their way.. And regarding who or what they worship, they can lie about that all day long, too, but what they can't do is piss down my back and convince me it's just rain. I'm not gaslit as easily as they would hope, especially after having seen the elephant with my very own beady two eyes. I watch what folks DO (including Satanists) much closer than I listen to what they SAY. That's where you find how a person's heart really is... and it the best way I know of to avoid the gaslighting so prevalent these days. .
12-09-2023, 05:06 PM
A reply to Ninurta..
I am surprised you of all people can’t see through this or see it for what it is. Under the guise of religion using satanic iconology and terminology that is 100% intended to be irritating and triggering, political activism and social commentary are at the core of the Satanic Temple’s shtick aimed at the religious right. The Satanic Temple (TST) doesn’t believe in the supernatural i.e. gods, demons, magic, Satan etc. Don’t confuse the Satanic Temple with Levayan Satanism (the Church of Satan) or other factions. TST is more aligned with groups like the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF.org) and Americans United for Separation of Church and State (www.au.org) From their website Quote:We have publicly confronted hate groups, fought for the abolition of corporal punishment in public schools, applied for equal representation when religious installations are placed on public property, provided religious exemption and legal protection against laws that unscientifically restrict people's reproductive autonomy, exposed harmful pseudo-scientific practitioners in mental health care, organized clubs alongside other religious after-school clubs in schools besieged by proselytizing organizations, and engaged in other advocacy in accordance with our tenets. Quote:No, nor do we believe in the existence of Satan or the supernatural. The Satanic Temple believes that religion can, and should, be divorced from superstition. As such, we do not promote a belief in a personal Satan. To embrace the name Satan is to embrace rational inquiry removed from supernaturalism and archaic tradition-based superstitions. Satanists should actively work to hone critical thinking and exercise reasonable agnosticism in all things. Our beliefs must be malleable to the best current scientific understandings of the material world — never the reverse. When they call what they’re doing “The Samuel Alito’s Mom’s Satanic Abortion Clinic”, one should get a clue what this about. More from their website specifically on this issue: Quote:With recent political attacks on reproductive healthcare, abortion access has been restricted or eliminated in many states. The Satanic Temple, on behalf of its members, objects to government interference with abortion access and contests that laws that impede our faith in bodily autonomy and our ability to perform our Religious Abortion Ritual violate the First Amendment and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. As a pro-choice voter and rampant advocate for separation of church and state that abhors the religious influences in our government, I will again affirm my support for the things TST are doing. If that makes me a Marxist socialist communist atheist heathen liberal/progressive evil monster or whatever in some people’s eyes then so be it. I really couldn’t care less about what other people think. After all, this is Rogue Nation, not an echo chamber and as someone that is actually more “rogue” in many ways than most around here due to how I have lived and live my life, my voice, opinions and perspectives are as valid as anyone’s even if I pretty much feel like an outlier around here. Going against the grain all the time isn’t easy but isn’t that the definition of what a rogue is? I should get a medal! LOL Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
12-09-2023, 08:02 PM
(12-09-2023, 04:12 AM)Freija Wrote: this is the Satanic Temple, not the Church of Satan. Same diff in my book ... they claim the title of Satan in their organizations' very name. Why would they do that? You draw fire on yourself ... you've earned every bit that you get. Religion is made up by men. Therefore it is flawed. If God wanted us to have religion he'd have damn sure given it to us. I _know_ this. Still I don't go poking church-going folk in the eye with a sharp stick. I might set a satanist on fire just for fun though. Show 'em what Hell's gonna feel like, ya know? And, no, I don't believe there's really a Hell (or a Satan).
12-09-2023, 09:34 PM
(12-09-2023, 05:06 PM)Freija Wrote: ... Fair enough, but if they didn't want to be conflated with the rest of the Satanist crowd, they probably should not have evoked the name. They are fostering such conflations their own selves, and I'm sure there is a reason for that, a reason beyond the shiny PR campaign they are trying to foist off on the rest of the world. If they wear the uniform, they can field the shots aimed at it without my help. Your mileage is welcome to vary. Regarding their abortion stance, and abortion in general, I really don't care about abortions per se. Matter of fact, I think folks seeking abortions are doing the rest of us a favor. Clearly they have some genetic defects that they are gracefully trying to prevent from tainting the gene pool. One would HAVE to have a basic defect to kill off one's own offspring - that files against everything else in nature. So let 'em do as they will. It's good for the human race to keep their tainted genes out of the pool the rest of us have to swim in. Where they go off the rails is in referring to their "services" as a "religious ritual", one that incorporates killing off other humans - i.e. "human sacrifice", and in the case of abortions, "infant sacrifice". It's pretty plain, and very simple. That's not somewhere they had to go just to "buck the system". It's intentional and blatant. Furthermore, despite their protestations of innocence, I call 'em like I see 'em. Either they are a religion, or they are not - can't have it both ways at the same time. Now, since I can't judge their religion looking in from the outsider, I have to take them at their word... and a "religious ritual" that involves killing humans is, by definition, human sacrifice. No other way to get around it. Now I myself will not kill babies. I'm not a "baby killer", despite labels to the contrary applied by other folks Still, it's not for me to determine how other folks relate to their own offspring - I just have to refrain from killing their kids myself to adhere to my own personal moral code - I don't get to determine whether they kill off their own or not. This Satanic Temple appears to have no such code, and are happy to assist others in killing off their offspring to assuage the guilty of the blood on their own hands. If they are willing to take that blood onto "Satanic" hands, then they can also take the baggage that comes along with it. As I mentioned before, I watch what people DO more than listen to what they SAY. Claims are a dime a dozen. Action is where the rubber meets the road. Their actions (assisting folks in killing off their kids) in combination with their words (calling it a "religious ritual of abortion") clearly indicate just one thing - human sacrifice. I call a spade a spade, and let the chips fall where they may. I don't care about flashy PR campaigns loaded with prevarications, especially when they contradict ACTIONS. I reckon "seeing through" things apparently has layers of vision. I just think folks ought to peel back a few more layers before settling on a conclusion is all. Stopping at the surface layer that the Satanic Temple presents to us on a shiny platter is not, to my way of thinking, "seeing through" their facade. One has to dig a little deeper to get beneath that facade. . (12-09-2023, 08:02 PM)Snarl Wrote: ... I personally believe that ALL religions in the modern world, and probably all of them in the past, are/were just a made-up set of rituals, made up by Some Guy ™ , as a means of covering the fact that folks are just too lazy, and in some cases downright incapable, of making any actual meaningful connection with their god(s). So, they can participate in a set of rituals and claim to have a "personal relationship" with their god(s). However, personal participation in what amounts to a mere party is NOT the same thing as personally connecting with A God. No more so than personally attending an inaugural ball gives one 24/7 carte blanche with a president. The rituals are just feel-good substitutes for that personal connection that most folks will never know. They stop at the rituals thinking that is enough. It's not, no more than playing a first-person shooter video game puts one in an actual war getting shot at by actual bullets. Now they stop at ritual and "religion" because they believe that is enough, when it's actually a side-track leading them away from their god(s). Some do it out of laziness, others do it out of a fear of the potential for actually meeting their god(s), and yet others do it because it is all they can or ever WILL do - it's all they are capable of, because their god(s) want nothing to do with them - it takes two to make a "relationship",and if their god)s) want nothing to do with them, their efforts are doomed before they even begin. "Religion" is just a mask to cover those deficiencies. It happily also has the side effect or bonus of granting way too much political/social power over the followers to the Some Guy ™ who invented the rituals in the first place. He or she becomes "da man!" in the hierarchy of the religion, able to hand down edicts from on high to the adherents... edicts that come from himself rather than any God whom he has never met, either. -------------------------------------- I place Satanists in the same camp with Wiccans, Odinists, and Most modern Christian denominations like Catholics and Lutherans, etc - having all of the trappings of spirituality, with none of the power of it. All any of them really have is a set of rituals, most of the ones mentioned being based on medieval concepts of a reality that has become no clearer to them in the intervening centuries. Take Wiccans as an example - modern Wicca has no bearing on ancient wiccans. It was entirely made up by Gerald Gardner in the 20th century, and based upon medieval concepts of what a "witch" actually was, after the Catholic Church had already seized on wiccans as "the enemy" (because every movement has to have at least one "enemy"), and conformed the perceptions of the masses to the ideas of what something has to be to be in opposition to their own church. That concept of stirring cauldrons, calling on the devil, the "osculare infame", chanting "boil, boil, trouble and toil" is not from the original - it had to invoke Satan, and all the other ritual trappings, to demonstrate opposition to the Catholic Church. Likewise for Satanism - it was conflated with witchcraft in medieval times for the same reasons, and modern conceptions of Satanism stem from those medieval concepts. Satanism is, and has always been since it's medieval inception, just a means of opposing Catholicism, a tantrum thrown by immature folks against a perceived threat to themselves. Modern Satansim was invented by Anton LaVey, and based upon the medieval concepts of Satanism which were controlled by the Catholic Church in order to present an "enemy" to church-goers of the day, to strengthen the grip of the Church over them, it's strangle-hold on them. Kinda funny when you think of it - Satanists are actually STILL being controlled and defined by their own "enemies". They can't have it any other way - they cannot shake the controlling yoke of Catholicism or indeed Christianity in general so long as they continue to just be a movement to counter it. They are then being forced to "kick against the goad" of Christianity, because without that, they dwindle to nothingness. They are entirely reactive rather than proactive, and that gives their enemies control over them. As the Bible says, these modern religions "have the form of godliness but deny the power thereof". The only real power any of them have is what human-power they are able to generate. That amounts to how far they can stretch their arms and swing their sacrifice knives. They neither know their god(s) nor do their god(s) know them... and that applies to most Christians as well. Pity, that. For the record, I think that the Levites, and Leviticus/ Deuteronomy in general, are the first attempts at "religion" and ritual documented in the Christian's own books, designed to lead them astray from any possibility of a meeting with their God. If one reads Genesis thoroughly and critically, he will find no such mechanisms to prevent a meeting with God. "Walking with God" had no religion until Moses and Levi forced one on it. "Enoch walked with God, and then was not, for God took him" doesn't carry the same ritual force as "Enoch wasn't allowed to eat shellfish any more, lest God smite him, because Levi said so, and Levi has a direct ritual hotline to God.." .
You said some stuff here that truly resonates with me. Damn sure worth repeating.
(12-09-2023, 09:34 PM)Ninurta Wrote: Matter of fact, I think folks seeking abortions are doing the rest of us a favor. Clearly they have some genetic defects that they are gracefully trying to prevent from tainting the gene pool. One would HAVE to have a basic defect to kill off one's own offspring - that files against everything else in nature. So let 'em do as they will. It's good for the human race to keep their tainted genes out of the pool the rest of us have to swim in. I'm going to 'hope' the website formats this the way I intended it to. (12-09-2023, 10:22 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I personally believe that ALL religions in the modern world, and probably all of them in the past, are/were just a made-up set of rituals, made up by Some Guy ™ , as a means of covering the fact that folks are just too lazy, and in some cases downright incapable, of making any actual meaningful connection with their god(s). In my studies, I drew a conclusion that the written texts were more about telling the story. A good story can pretty much be remembered. Might be that some of the context is lost in the next telling, but the original effort made might be sussed out if the reader were to take on such an effort. (12-09-2023, 10:22 PM)Ninurta Wrote: "Enoch walked with God, and then was not, for God took him" doesn't carry the same ritual force as That's one of the few quotes that I believe can be taken literally. I think the Book of Enoch was removed from canon because it's stark proof that we 'can' have an encounter with God Himself. (And, I am sure I have left no doubt in the minds of others that I have ... on multiple occasions ... found myself in the presence of God. When whatever Council it was decided Enoch wasn't part of Religion anymore ... it was due to the realization that the Religious PTB could hold no sway over people like me ... once they _knew_ ... no faith required anymore at all. (12-09-2023, 10:22 PM)Ninurta Wrote: As the Bible says, these modern religions "have the form of godliness but deny the power thereof". The only real power any of them have is what human-power they are able to generate. That amounts to how far they can stretch their arms and swing their sacrifice knives. They neither know their god(s) nor do their god(s) know them... and that applies to most Christians as well. I've found one pastor. He's big-time too. He doesn't say the same thing (I say out loud) to his congregation. I never figured out why. He does discuss his "knowledge of God's omnipresence" amongst people away from his pulpit. I just never got the opportunity to address the omission directly. He's just a man after all. Could be God told him not to. I might never know. Also, I forget the name of the religion ... it's the one where a pastor 'touches' a parishioner and the parishioner faints and whatnot. I think they might truly be having spiritual encounters in that moment with their God. I'm not going to invite myself to one of their events, but I wouldn't decline an invitation if offered. Fascinating stuff (possibly). The thing _is_ the knowing. When God is about ... His presence is unmistakable. You've just got to be introduced to Him the first time (I think). I 'think' Muhammad may have found him on his own in the cave ... maybe. But, even if he did (as we discussed in your home), he might not have understood ... might have warped ... might have might have ... I think you get me. And the other thing for anyone 'reading': When you meet God, you may be in for quite a let-down afterwards. What you walk away with is no longer faith/belief ... you Know. But, it doesn't line your pockets with gold and silver either. LMAO |
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