Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off

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As I understand it Iran is targeting American interests in those countries not the countries themselves , other than Israel of course , the fire at the Hotel was reportedly caused by a downed rocket.

The UK government are considering raising the terror threat level which given the number of possible Islamic terrorists in this Country is probably a good idea , I imagine the EU will do the same with Easter approaching.

[David64]

As I understand it Iran is targeting American interests in those countries not the countries themselves , other than Israel of course , the fire at the Hotel was reportedly caused by a downed rocket.

The UK government are considering raising the terror threat level which given the number of possible Islamic terrorists in this Country is probably a good idea , I imagine the EU will do the same with Easter approaching.

Have you seen this ? Watch the video. This guy looks like he's searching for targets. I think we need to seriously consider there may be many of these lone wolf attacks in retaliation for Khomeini.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-shooti...m-fbi-says

The suspect was a 53The suspect was a 53-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen who was born in Senegal and lived in Pflugerville, Texas, multiple federal law enforcement sources told Fox News.

According to those sources, the shooter was wearing clothing that said "Allah" on it and an undershirt featuring an Iranian flag. Fox News has obtained a photo of the alleged mass shooter, armed with a rifle and in a sweater that says "property of Allah." 


-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen who was born in Senegal and lived in Pflugerville, Texas, multiple federal law enforcement sources told Fox News.
The suspect was a 53-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen who was born in Senegal and lived in Pflugerville, Texas, multiple federal law enforcement sources told Fox News.

According to those sources, the shooter was wearing clothing that said "Allah" on it and an undershirt featuring an Iranian flag. Fox News has obtained a photo of the alleged mass shooter, armed with a ri
According to those sources, the shooter was wearing clothing that said "Allah" on it and an undershirt featuring an Iranian flag. Fox News has obtained a photo of the alleged mass shooter, armed with a rifle and in a sweater that says "

[Ninurta]

As I understand it Iran is targeting American interests in those countries not the countries themselves , other than Israel of course , the fire at the Hotel was reportedly caused by a downed rocket.

The UK government are considering raising the terror threat level which given the number of possible Islamic terrorists in this Country is probably a good idea , I imagine the EU will do the same with Easter approaching.

Have you seen this ? Watch the video. This guy looks like he's searching for targets. I think we need to seriously consider there may be many of these lone wolf attacks in retaliation for Khomeini.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-shooti...m-fbi-says

The suspect was a 53The suspect was a 53-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen who was born in Senegal and lived in Pflugerville, Texas, multiple federal law enforcement sources told Fox News.

According to those sources, the shooter was wearing clothing that said "Allah" on it and an undershirt featuring an Iranian flag. Fox News has obtained a photo of the alleged mass shooter, armed with a rifle and in a sweater that says "property of Allah." 


-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen who was born in Senegal and lived in Pflugerville, Texas, multiple federal law enforcement sources told Fox News.
The suspect was a 53-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen who was born in Senegal and lived in Pflugerville, Texas, multiple federal law enforcement sources told Fox News.

According to those sources, the shooter was wearing clothing that said "Allah" on it and an undershirt featuring an Iranian flag. Fox News has obtained a photo of the alleged mass shooter, armed with a ri
According to those sources, the shooter was wearing clothing that said "Allah" on it and an undershirt featuring an Iranian flag. Fox News has obtained a photo of the alleged mass shooter, armed with a rifle and in a sweater that says "

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[Ninurta]

r. Maalouf ‏It’s 1 AM in Iran right now and everyone is out in the streets celebrating.

Iranians deserve a life with freedom. 

what does it say about the Iranian regime
that its people celebrate a foreign attack on the leaders

Remember that chap in Iraq chopping down the statue of Saddam and the celebrations on the streets when they were liberated ?

I hope what followed there isn't repeated in Iran , our history of regime change is littered with failure.

I believe the blunder made in Iraq (other than the initial blunder of starting a war on an unnecessary front to begin with) was sending in "occupation" forces after the initial flush of victory. I think thy would have been in a much better place had they not sent in those occupation forces, but instead left Iraq to the Iraqis and just moved on to more important matters.

Trying to hold ground that is not yours to hold is always a risky business. It builds resentments quickly.

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[EndtheMadnessNow]

Like I inferred last night... it's now happened:
Four Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit stealth bombers from Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri conducted a round-trip bombing sortie to Iran. Strike package was reportedly 2,000 lb bombs dropped on Iran’s hardened ballistic missile facilities. They were caught returning this morning checking in with Seville Control by @thenewarea51 as PETRO 41, and confirmed that they are a flight of four aircraft.

PETRO 41-44 flight have been supported by tankers from Lajes. REACH 065 flight departed Lajes Field yesterday afternoon, followed by REACH 023. Videos of these tankers departing in daylight in 30s intervals were posted on X and will be linked in the replies.

This morning, REACH 083 flight has been towing PETRO 41 flt home to Whiteman AFB. Those tankers are currently returning to Lajes.

Overall, it looks like at least 13 tankers have been required to support 4 B-2s from Whiteman to Iran and back to Whiteman. It's possible more tankers over Iraq refuelled them before REACH 083 flight did this morning.

Significant other tanker activity continues. KC-135s operating from Chania are flying as ZEUS, with ZEUS 11-14 flying yesterday through Nicosia FIR, and another flight of four ZEUS tankers currently en route.

KC-46 and KC-135s have been operating as well from Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv. We've seen YETI 31-35 and YETI 51-53 yesterday, as well as YETI 54-57 and YETI 11-13 this morning. This is maintaining a 24-hour refuelling operation over Iraq for aircraft from the USAF and IDF operating in Iran.





The B-2s are on their way back to Whiteman AFB as PETRO41 flight. They checked in earlier this morning with SEVILLE CONTROL over the Straight of Gibraltar just like Op Midnight Hammer. Callsign PETRO or PEDRO.
Audio: https://x.com/thenewarea51/status/2028102298572902415

Story with audio: B-2 Spirit Stealth Bombers Take Part in Night Strikes on Iran


First 24 hrs of Operation Epic Fury:




First US causalities in Kuwait:


Expect that number to increase over the coming days & weeks.


TLAMs away from guided-missile destroyer USS Thomas Hudner (DDG 116):


With sound: https://x.com/ianellisjones/status/2028154401014104367


Iranian Jamaran-class corvette sunk:



Footage of an Iranian drone slamming into the US Camp Buehring in Kuwait.
https://x.com/Faytuks/status/2028142344202031390


UAE Air Defenses Have Dealt with 165 Ballistic Missiles, 2 Cruise Missiles, and 541 Iranian Drones so far:




Interactive Map: U.S. and Israeli Strikes on Iran


It's being reported that former Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad caught a bomb.


Aftermath vid clip: https://x.com/Tendar/status/2027678340627190133


Because Israel and the US have nearly total air supremacy over Iran, published reports say they are employing stand-in ordnance and delivery techniques instead of stand-off techniques. This means they can go after almost anything: moving targets, deep installations to carnival barkers... personalized warfare.



Black Tomahawk Cruise Missile Seen For The First Time In Strikes On Iran

Jerusalem has been getting hit hard though difficult to tell what all was hit & how much damage due to Israeli censorship. Even the livecams are censoring exact locations. I'm assuming they don't want the enemy to see and make missile targeting adjustments.


Sounds like a growing number of nations are not happy with Iran's reaction and indiscriminate flailing missile attacks. The UK, France, and Germany have announced their intention to potentially carry out strikes on Iran to destroy its missile and drone launch capabilities if Iranian forces persist in their attacks.  France is sending its Charles de Gaulle carrier strike group to the eastern Mediterranean, interrupting its deployment to the Baltic after their main Naval Base was hit. Macron held a Defense and National Security Council meeting. Did not have the French on my bingo card.

Trump says that Saudi Arabia are now actively involved in the fight against the Iranian regime.




Brits just gave permission for Diego Garcia and RAF Fairford to be used by the U.S. to strike Iranian missile facilities.

TRUMP ON IRAN: "The entire military command is gone. Many want to surrender. Military operations will continue until all of our objectives are achieved...Lay down your arms and receive full immunity or face certain DEATH. It won't be pretty."

6 min Trump speech: https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/2028216633236320573

Mirrored from Trump's Truth Social

[727Sky]

An absolutely horrible mission for the crews of the B-2s.

[The Crying Bunny]

An absolutely horrible mission for the crews of the B-2s.

Try being a crew chief on one of those

[727Sky]

3 American troops killed

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The rip off cost of everything defense is amazing. Evidently our super secret moon base and fleet of star ships is well funded as this is but one example of military cost ! https://boltflight.com/b-2-spirit-bomber...lth-power/

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B-2 Spirit Bomber Cost Per Hour: The True Price of Stealth Power
By [url=https://boltflight.com/author/wiley-stickney/]Wiley Stickney
Published on February 24, 2026

The B-2 Spirit bomber is more than a flying wing—it is a symbol of American strategic dominance, technological ambition, and Cold War urgency frozen in composite and radar-absorbing skin. Yet beneath its smooth, bat-like silhouette lies a financial reality that few aircraft in history can match. The question is not simply how powerful it is. The real question is far more practical: how much do B-2 Spirit bomber missions cost per hour?
The answer places the B-2 among the most expensive operational aircraft ever flown. According to multiple defense cost analyses, the B-2 Spirit costs between $130,000 and $150,000 per flight hour. That figure positions it as the second most expensive aircraft in the United States Air Force inventory—surpassed only by the Boeing E-4B Nightwatch “doomsday plane,” which exceeds $160,000 per hour.
That number alone demands context. A flight hour does not simply mean fuel burned in sixty minutes. It represents a dense web of maintenance labor, spare parts, logistics, infrastructure, engineering support, and highly specialized environmental systems. To understand why the B-2 commands such staggering operational costs, we must look beyond the runway and into the hangar.

The Real B-2 Spirit Cost Per Flight Hour Explained
The $130,000–$150,000 per hour cost reflects sustainment, maintenance, manpower, and operational support—not merely jet fuel. In fact, fuel is only a fraction of the total.
The B-2 requires approximately 50 to 60 maintenance hours for every single hour flown. Some mission profiles push that figure dramatically higher, with estimates reaching up to 119 maintenance hours per flight hour depending on mission complexity and post-flight restoration needs. In aviation economics, that maintenance-to-flight ratio is extraordinary.
Every mission triggers an intensive inspection cycle. Technicians perform what is known as “touch labor,” manually repairing even the smallest surface imperfections. A minor scratch. A slight seam lift in the stealth coating. Even bird residue. Each defect can compromise radar invisibility. And radar invisibility is the entire purpose of the aircraft.
When stealth is the mission, perfection is not optional.
Why the B-2 Is Called the “Hangar Queen”
The B-2 Spirit has earned an infamous nickname within defense circles: the “Hangar Queen.” The title is not an insult to its capability. It is a reflection of its extraordinary environmental sensitivity.
The aircraft’s stealth characteristics depend on radar absorbent material (RAM) coating its surface. This material degrades under exposure to sunlight, heat, moisture, and humidity. Unlike conventional aircraft such as the F-15 or F-16, the B-2 cannot simply park outdoors.
Its RAM coating is hydrophilic—it absorbs water. Rain or high humidity can cause bubbling, peeling, or a degradation in radar-absorbing effectiveness. As a result, the B-2 requires climate-controlled hangars with precise humidity and temperature regulation.
Only a handful of bases worldwide have such facilities. That means global deployment requires not just fuel and weapons, but infrastructure.
When forward bases lack permanent stealth hangars, the Air Force must transport portable shelter systems costing roughly $5 million each to protect the bomber. These mobile climate systems add significant logistical weight to every overseas deployment.

Infrastructure Costs That Multiply Mission Expenses
A standard B-2 hangar bay measures approximately 250 feet wide, 126 feet long, and 55 feet high—dimensions necessary to house the aircraft’s massive 172-foot wingspan. These facilities are not simple garages. They incorporate sophisticated environmental management systems capable of controlling humidity within narrow tolerances.
To relocate a B-2 squadron, the Air Force must move specialized chemical tapes, stealth repair kits, HVAC units, testing systems, and expert maintenance teams. Each deployment becomes a logistical operation resembling a small industrial migration.
The cost per hour reflects this reality. Even when the aircraft is not airborne, the sustainment ecosystem surrounding it continues to consume resources.
The Production Cut That Changed Everything
The B-2’s high operational cost cannot be separated from its production history. Originally, the U.S. Air Force intended to procure between 100 and 200 aircraft. The end of the Cold War changed that equation dramatically. Final production stopped at just 21 aircraft.
That reduction shattered economies of scale. Instead of spreading research, tooling, and supply chain costs across hundreds of units, those costs were absorbed by a fleet barely larger than a commercial airline’s regional division.
Many companies built specialized B-2 components in the late 1980s and early 1990s. When production was slashed by roughly 85 percent, profit margins disappeared. Some manufacturers exited the defense market entirely. Others stopped producing parts decades ago.
Today, when a unique B-2 component fails, the Air Force often cannot simply order a replacement. Contractors must reverse engineer obsolete parts, sometimes spending millions to recreate a single component. That expense feeds directly into the aircraft’s cost per flight hour.
Software Complexity: The Hidden Expense
Hardware is only part of the story. The B-2’s onboard systems were designed in the 1980s. Updating those systems to integrate modern weapons is not as simple as installing new software patches.
Integrating a new missile can require hundreds of millions of dollars in research and development, rewriting legacy code to communicate with 21st-century targeting systems. Engineers capable of maintaining and updating B-2 code are rare. The skill set resembles restoring a vintage computer while demanding it interface seamlessly with satellite-linked precision munitions.
This aging digital architecture inflates operational costs far beyond fuel and engine maintenance.
Engine Burden and Sustainment Costs
The B-2 Spirit uses four engines, buried deep within its composite flying wing fuselage. Accessing them for maintenance is complex and labor-intensive. Their positioning improves stealth but increases sustainment time.
Engine maintenance represents one of the largest recurring expenses in the B-2 lifecycle. Fabricating or acquiring specialized engine components can be extraordinarily costly, especially given the limited fleet size.
Four engines mean more inspections, more parts, more overhauls, and more fuel consumption. In modern defense budgeting, complexity is expensive.

The Strategic Role That Justifies the Cost
Despite its immense per-hour expense, the B-2 remains operationally indispensable. It is one of the few aircraft capable of penetrating heavily defended airspace undetected and delivering both conventional and nuclear payloads across intercontinental distances.
Its range, payload flexibility, and stealth profile give the United States a “silver bullet” capability. The aircraft is rarely used for routine deterrence patrols precisely because it is so expensive. Instead, it is reserved for missions requiring precision, survivability, and strategic messaging.
A weapon that costs $150,000 per hour must deliver disproportionate strategic value. The B-2 does.
The Arrival of the B-21 Raider: A Cost Revolution
The future successor to the B-2, the B-21 Raider, is designed explicitly to reduce operational cost while increasing availability. The Air Force targets a cost per flight hour of approximately $65,000—roughly half that of the B-2.
The Raider’s stealth coating is engineered differently. Instead of thousands of hand-applied tape and caulk seams, its next-generation stealth skin is “baked in” during manufacturing, creating a more durable and chemically stable surface. That reduces touch labor and environmental vulnerability.
Unlike the B-2, the B-21 does not require massive custom hangars. Its smaller wingspan allows it to fit inside existing Hardened Aircraft Shelters (HAS). This dramatically reduces infrastructure overhead and deployment complexity.
Digital-First Design and Modular Efficiency
The B-21 employs a Modular Open Systems Approach (MOSA). That means its architecture is designed for rapid upgrades. Integrating a new weapon may take weeks rather than years.
Northrop Grumman built a digital twin of the aircraft before physical construction. Engineers simulated systems in a fully digital ecosystem, identifying inefficiencies early. This approach reduces lifecycle sustainment costs and simplifies future upgrades.
The Raider also leverages mature components from other programs. Its engines are derivatives of the Pratt & Whitney F135, already used in over 1,300 F-35 fighters worldwide. That means an established global maintenance network supports the propulsion system. Scale reduces cost.

Size, Efficiency, and the Economics of Modern Warfare
The B-2 was designed in an era where cost constraints were secondary to survivability against Soviet air defenses. Size was considered strength. Four engines, massive fuel capacity, and a large payload bay reflected worst-case nuclear war planning.
The B-21 represents a philosophical shift. Smaller airframes require less thrust. Fewer engines reduce maintenance. Modern precision-guided munitions mean payload efficiency has improved, allowing similar combat effectiveness with reduced mass.
The result is lower fuel burn per hour and lower maintenance burden per sortie.
More Stealth Per Dollar
Stealth technology has evolved significantly over three decades. The B-21’s RAM coating is more resilient and more effective across both high-frequency targeting radars and low-frequency early warning systems. That translates into higher “stealth availability.”
Availability is critical. A stealth bomber sitting in a climate-controlled hangar waiting for adhesive to cure does not deter adversaries. A bomber capable of dispersing to austere runways in the Pacific or Arctic does.
By reducing environmental sensitivity and logistical overhead, the B-21 increases operational presence per dollar spent.
The Economics of Deterrence
Deterrence depends on credibility and visibility of readiness. The B-2’s high cost per flight hour limits routine deployment. It is preserved for decisive operations.
In contrast, a bomber costing $65,000 per hour can fly more frequently, maintain more forward presence, and project power more consistently.
The B-2 Spirit remains a masterpiece of engineering—a flying monument to Cold War urgency and stealth innovation. But its $130,000 to $150,000 per hour mission cost reflects design decisions rooted in a different strategic era.
The aircraft’s small production run, fragile stealth skin, four-engine architecture, specialized infrastructure requirements, and aging digital systems all converge into one unavoidable reality: the B-2 is breathtakingly capable—and breathtakingly expensive.
As the B-21 Raider enters service, the cost equation shifts. The goal is not simply to replace the Spirit. It is to preserve its strategic advantage while dramatically lowering the economic burden of stealth warfare.
In modern defense strategy, stealth is no longer enough. It must also be sustainable.

[GRIZZ0317]

Apparently, video is now coming out of Iranians celebrating and dancing in the streets in both Iran and London. Oof. That's gotta be inconvenient for the folks screaming "what about the poor Iranians caught in the crossfire! We ought not to be bombing those poor, poor Iranians..."

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Apparently, there is independent confirmation now of the death of Khameinei in the form of photographic evidence of his shrapnel-riddled body. I've not seen it yet, but am told it does exist.

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It is quite hard to claim that the Iranian people don't want this with those videos showing up, I've also now seen one from Los Angeles. I also just saw a post with a video claiming to be people mourning Khameinei, but the video is from a funeral in 2020.

[EndtheMadnessNow]

Those who have a large display, here's four Livecams to monitor the situation.