So whose bright idea was the 'Army Captures Flying Saucer' headline?

[A51Watcher2]

The notion of the military ever voluntarily releasing top secret information has always puzzled me.

As we know that is not in their nature, it does not fit their M.O.

So who would make the colossal blunder of releasing this information to the press?

A naive Col. Blanchard?

What, he thought the public had a right to know and didn't bother to check with his bosses first?

Not-very-likely.


How about we give a listen to the man who actually issued this press release to the media,

who in the end, gave us the answer as to whose bright idea it was to issue the press release stating that the Army had 'captured' a Flying Saucer.


Before his death in 2005, he signed a sealed affidavit confession to be opened only after his passing.

Before that time, all he had ever said publicly is that Col. Blanchard called him up one day and dictated the press release to him that he wanted given to all press media.

Which is indeed true, but not the whole truth as we were later to find out.

"On Tuesday morning, July 8, I would attend the regularly scheduled staff meeting at 7:30 a.m.

Besides

Blanchard,
Marcel;
CIC Capt. Sheridan Cavitt;
Col. James I. Hopkins, the operations officer;
Major Patrick Saunders, the base adjutant;
Major Isadore Brown, the personnel officer;
Lt. Col. Ulysses S. Nero, the supply officer; and from Carswell AAF in Fort Worth, Texas, Blanchard’s boss,
Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey and his chief of staff,
Col. Thomas J. DuBose were also in attendance.

...One of the main concerns discussed at the meeting was whether we should go public or not with the discovery.


Gen.Ramey proposed a plan, which I believe originated with his bosses at the Pentagon.

Attention needed to be diverted from the more important site north of town by acknowledging the other location.

Too many civilians were already involved and the press already was informed.

I was not completely informed how this would be accomplished."


So the origin of this idea was actually from the Pentagon.

And the primary motivation was -

"Attention needed to be diverted from the more important site north of town by acknowledging the other location.

Too many civilians were already involved and the press already was informed."


Now add to the equation some information that the military had, that not even the President knew -

Not only had we broken the German and Jap secret codes, but the Soviets as well.


The Venona project began in 1943, and through this project the military were well aware of how many Russian spies had infiltrated even the Manhattan project.

The very existence of this program was not revealed until a leak in 1995.


From Wiki -

"The decrypted messages gave important insights into Soviet behavior in the period during which duplicate one-time pads were used.

With the first break into the code, Venona revealed the existence of Soviet espionage at Los Alamos National Laboratories.

Identities soon emerged of American, Canadian, Australian, and British spies in service to the Soviet government, including Klaus Fuchs, Alan Nunn May, and Donald Maclean.

Others worked in Washington in the State Department, the Treasury, Office of Strategic Services,and even the White House.


For much of its history, knowledge of Venona was restricted even from the highest levels of government.

Senior army officers, in consultation with the FBI and CIA, made the decision to restrict knowledge of Venona within the government (even the CIA was not made an active partner until 1952).

Army Chief of Staff Omar Bradley, concerned about the White House's history of leaking sensitive information, decided to deny President Truman direct knowledge of the project.

The president received the substance of the material only through FBI, Justice Department, and CIA reports on counterintelligence and intelligence matters.

He was not told the material came from decoded Soviet ciphers."


The Pentagon was also well aware that New Mexico was lousy with civilian Russian spies interested in Los Alamos, White Sands and of course the 509th Atomic Air wing.

Those were undoubtedly the civilians the Pentagon was primarily concerned with 'diverting their attention' as stated.

So it was the old 'bait and switch ruse' used since the debris field was the only site known to the public at that point, and the military wanted to keep it that way while they recovered and cleaned up the crash site.

And the debris field was already cordoned off.

Once that was accomplished, the weather balloon story was... 'released'.

Walter Haut, who released this headline to the media, was also allowed to see the recovered Disc and alien bodies by his commander and old friend from WWII - Col Blanchard.

They were both Bomber pilots in the same squadron who flew missions over Japanese targets during WWII.

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More info on the Venona project -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venona_project

[BIAD]

I always chortle when I read the Army's 'rational' explanation of what was supposed to have really come down out at the
Foster ranch and how dumb they made Brazel out to be. On the face of it, the Mogul cover-story makes sense, but when
fair logic is applied, just like a punctured balloon, it doesn't hold water.


Bill Brazel.

If Haut was instructed to write and issue the press-release to -with all respects to The Roswell Daily Record, a small-town
newspaper, it could only mean that Blanchard via Ramey knew of the Mogul project, was aware of its delicate situation in
regards of damage to an already sensitive political position and gambled that a UFO tale would allay any Russian interest.
But considering the public's interest in 'flying saucers', was this a smart move?

And on the back of all this, it means any Ufo sighting in the future was to be deemed foolish and a report from the public
or military personnel could not be trusted. After all, a Brigadier and a Colonel of the 509th Operations Group -who conducted
the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki a couple of years before, believed the flying saucer craze wasn't something
to be taken seriously and had just told a newspaper of such an opinion.

Or did the Military lie back then or are they lying now with their latest shenanigans?!

(I have a framed copy of that front-page on my conservatory wall!!)

Yet Blanchard, those he controlled and the engineers that were allegedly involved in this listening experiment never went
to look for this downed-balloon and the attached apparatus. Sheriff Wilcox was not advised to keep his ear to the ground
for any reports from locals who'd discovered a weather balloon on their respective properties and Blanchard's subordinates
were kept out of the loop too. Nobody had to mention anything about sensitive data and one might suggest that any results
from any tests involving balloons could be deemed important to those performing the tests.

Nobody had to be instructed to keep their mouths shut about this particular experiment and nobody had to ring the 'crashed
disc'-bell, all those who were involved had to do was search for the downed instruments... just like they did when any other
Rawin Target balloon went astray.

A real cover was already there, they regularly sent experimental balloons up in a place where the atmosphere is conducive
with performing such meteorological analysis and one of them went missing. It's now no big deal... maybe a small reward
if someone shows up with information in finding it, but certainly don't tell the world you've nabbed a space vehicle!!!

.....................................................................

Not one for offering 'imaginations', but what if Mac Brazel did find the weathered remains of a balloon in June of 47 and
after -as he said, stashing away from his sheep who were too skitterish to go to the watering-hole, reported his discovery
to Roswell's Sheriff almost a month later?

Brazel wasn't a scientist, he had no idea of what he'd found scattered across the property and if it was the sun-scorched
remains of a earthly device, his possible ploy to crow he was the guy who'd found a flying saucer wouldn't have lasted
long! And by the way, he never said it was something from out of this world to Sheriff Wilcox, he only jokingly "whispered
kinda confidential like" that he may have found a flying disc.

This suggestion may have originated due to the gossip he'd overheard on a visit to Wade's Bar and pool hall in Corona on
a Sunday after he and the Dee boy had come across the debris.
.....................................................................

Why would a no-nonsense rancher and family-man be a liability to those who who were supposedly listening in for any
Soviet nuclear trials? The engineers who'd sent the balloon up had lost it and possibly for success of the classified mission,
wished not to offer a sense of urgency in retrieving the apparatus.
That would make sense on the face of it, but then we're back to the Haut announcement!

I see Wikipedia is back to their old tricks again and changing historical reality. William Brazel never went to Corona to find
a telephone, Brazel went to Corona for supplies and witnesses said he was there for that reason alone. (Apart from a beer
at Wades!)
.....................................................................

Here's a few paragraphs from US Air Force Historian Richard P. Hallion's report on an official investigation into what had
supposedly NOT happened in Roswell New Mexico and considering the importance of what Mac Brazel had unknowingly
discovered frightening his sheep, offers no indication that anything happened at all!

The Roswell Report PDF:

'...A listing of the specific record areas searched is appended as Atch 13. The areas included all those subject areas
logically believed to possibly contain any reference to activities at Roswell Army Air Field during the period of time
in question.

It is anticipated that detractors from this effort will complain that “they did not search record group x, box y, or reel z,
etc.; that’s where the real records are!” Such complaints are unavoidable and there is no possible way that the millions
of records under Air Force control could be searched page by page.

The team endeavored to make logical searches in those places where records would likely be found. They were assisted
in this task by archivists, historians, and records management specialists, including experienced persons who have
continually worked in Army and Air Force records systems since 1943.

The team also searched some record areas that were recommended by serious private researchers such as Robert Todd,
who had independently obtained almost encyclopedic knowledge of the complexities of Air Force records systems,
particularly those related to this subject area.

Not surprisingly, the research team found the usual number of problems in many of the records centers (particularly
St. Louis) with misfiling, lost or misplaced documents, mismarking of documents, or the breaking up of record groups
over the years and refiling in different systems.

This included, for example, a small amount of missing ”decimal files” from the 509th Bomb Group at Roswell that covered
the years 1945-1949, that were marked on the index as ”destroyed.” The researchers noted that there was no pattern to
any anomalies found and that most discrepancies were minor and consistent with what they had found in the past on similar
projects..."

The anomalies were minor, a cowboy who herded sheep says he found bits of a flying saucer and a Colonel “Butch” Blanchard,
commander of the Roswell Army Airfield’s 509th Composite Group, agreed with him. So much so that he ordered his public
information officer Walter Haut to issue a press release stating this esteemed group had recovered a "flying disc".

But no mention of such an atypical incident in a report with lots of big words.


(And because this topic will always bother me, here's some more of my views from the old RN website!)
RN Link:

[EndtheMadnessNow]

Historians Find Another Spy in the U.S. Atomic Bomb Project

His Soviet code name was Godsend, and he came to Los Alamos from a family of secret agents.

His role “has remained hidden for 70 years,” write Harvey Klehr and John Earl Haynes in the current issue of Studies in Intelligence, the C.I.A.’s in-house journal; their article is titled “On the Trail of a Fourth Soviet Spy at Los Alamos.” In separate interviews, the sleuths said they were still gathering clues regarding the exact character of Mr. Seborer’s atomic thefts.

A mole in New Mexico.

From an examination of archival materials from the K.G.B., the Soviet Union’s main intelligence agency, Mr. Klehr and Mr. Haynes learned about a shadowy group of moles in the United States known as the “Relative’s Group.” Three of the faction’s members — code-named Relative, Godfather and Godsend — were brothers. According to the study, the archival documents said that Godsend was at Los Alamos and that he was providing secret information on “Enormous,” the K.G.B.’s code name for the American project.

One trivial morsel I've always found mildly amusing is the current NORAD & NorthCom commander, Gen. Glen D. VanHerck (promoted to 4-star on Aug 20, 2020 & appointed by Trump) has direct lineage to the Roswell/509th Nuke Bomb Wing. Also, U.S. Army Gen. James Dickinson was sworn-in as new Space Commander on SAME DAY.

He was also leading those mock zombie apocalypse exercises in 2013 on several Air Force bases. An Op on how to stop hordes of alien zombies from getting into Cheyenne Mountain.

[ABNARTY]

I always chortle when I read the Army's 'rational' explanation of what was supposed to have really come down out at the
Foster ranch and how dumb they made Brazel out to be. On the face of it, the Mogul cover-story makes sense, but when
fair logic is applied, just like a punctured balloon, it doesn't hold water.


Bill Brazel.

If Haut was instructed to write and issue the press-release to -with all respects to The Roswell Daily Record, a small-town
newspaper, it could only mean that Blanchard via Ramey knew of the Mogul project, was aware of its delicate situation in
regards of damage to an already sensitive political position and gambled that a UFO tale would allay any Russian interest.
But considering the public's interest in 'flying saucers', was this a smart move?

And on the back of all this, it means any Ufo sighting in the future was to be deemed foolish and a report from the public
or military personnel could not be trusted. After all, a Brigadier and a Colonel of the 509th Operations Group -who conducted
the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki a couple of years before, believed the flying saucer craze wasn't something
to be taken seriously and had just told a newspaper of such an opinion.

Or did the Military lie back then or are they lying now with their latest shenanigans?!

(I have a framed copy of that front-page on my conservatory wall!!)

Yet Blanchard, those he controlled and the engineers that were allegedly involved in this listening experiment never went
to look for this downed-balloon and the attached apparatus. Sheriff Wilcox was not advised to keep his ear to the ground
for any reports from locals who'd discovered a weather balloon on their respective properties and Blanchard's subordinates
were kept out of the loop too. Nobody had to mention anything about sensitive data and one might suggest that any results
from any tests involving balloons could be deemed important to those performing the tests.

Nobody had to be instructed to keep their mouths shut about this particular experiment and nobody had to ring the 'crashed
disc'-bell, all those who were involved had to do was search for the downed instruments... just like they did when any other
Rawin Target balloon went astray.

A real cover was already there, they regularly sent experimental balloons up in a place where the atmosphere is conducive
with performing such meteorological analysis and one of them went missing. It's now no big deal... maybe a small reward
if someone shows up with information in finding it, but certainly don't tell the world you've nabbed a space vehicle!!!

.....................................................................

Not one for offering 'imaginations', but what if Mac Brazel did find the weathered remains of a balloon in June of 47 and
after -as he said, stashing away from his sheep who were too skitterish to go to the watering-hole, reported his discovery
to Roswell's Sheriff almost a month later?

Brazel wasn't a scientist, he had no idea of what he'd found scattered across the property and if it was the sun-scorched
remains of a earthly device, his possible ploy to crow he was the guy who'd found a flying saucer wouldn't have lasted
long! And by the way, he never said it was something from out of this world to Sheriff Wilcox, he only jokingly "whispered
kinda confidential like" that he may have found a flying disc.

This suggestion may have originated due to the gossip he'd overheard on a visit to Wade's Bar and pool hall in Corona on
a Sunday after he and the Dee boy had come across the debris.
.....................................................................

Why would a no-nonsense rancher and family-man be a liability to those who who were supposedly listening in for any
Soviet nuclear trials? The engineers who'd sent the balloon up had lost it and possibly for success of the classified mission,
wished not to offer a sense of urgency in retrieving the apparatus.
That would make sense on the face of it, but then we're back to the Haut announcement!

I see Wikipedia is back to their old tricks again and changing historical reality. William Brazel never went to Corona to find
a telephone, Brazel went to Corona for supplies and witnesses said he was there for that reason alone. (Apart from a beer
at Wades!)
.....................................................................

Here's a few paragraphs from US Air Force Historian Richard P. Hallion's report on an official investigation into what had
supposedly NOT happened in Roswell New Mexico and considering the importance of what Mac Brazel had unknowingly
discovered frightening his sheep, offers no indication that anything happened at all!

The Roswell Report PDF:

'...A listing of the specific record areas searched is appended as Atch 13. The areas included all those subject areas
logically believed to possibly contain any reference to activities at Roswell Army Air Field during the period of time
in question.

It is anticipated that detractors from this effort will complain that “they did not search record group x, box y, or reel z,
etc.; that’s where the real records are!” Such complaints are unavoidable and there is no possible way that the millions
of records under Air Force control could be searched page by page.

The team endeavored to make logical searches in those places where records would likely be found. They were assisted
in this task by archivists, historians, and records management specialists, including experienced persons who have
continually worked in Army and Air Force records systems since 1943.

The team also searched some record areas that were recommended by serious private researchers such as Robert Todd,
who had independently obtained almost encyclopedic knowledge of the complexities of Air Force records systems,
particularly those related to this subject area.

Not surprisingly, the research team found the usual number of problems in many of the records centers (particularly
St. Louis) with misfiling, lost or misplaced documents, mismarking of documents, or the breaking up of record groups
over the years and refiling in different systems.

This included, for example, a small amount of missing ”decimal files” from the 509th Bomb Group at Roswell that covered
the years 1945-1949, that were marked on the index as ”destroyed.” The researchers noted that there was no pattern to
any anomalies found and that most discrepancies were minor and consistent with what they had found in the past on similar
projects..."

The anomalies were minor, a cowboy who herded sheep says he found bits of a flying saucer and a Colonel “Butch” Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Airfield’s 509th Composite Group, agreed with him. So much so that he
ordered his public information officer Walter Haut to issue a press release stating this esteemed group had recovered
a "flying disc".

But no mention of such an atypical incident in a report with lots of big words.


(And because this topic will always bother me, here's some more of my views from the old RN website!)
RN Link:

I saw Roswell and I knew you would be on here