United Health care CEO shot dead in N.Y.'s gun free zone

[727Sky]

Long winded discussion :

A healthcare CEO lies dead on a Manhattan sidewalk, executed by what some are calling a professional hit, and tonight on RAW FEED, Gary Franchi brings you the surveillance footage they don't want you to analyze. UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson never made it to his morning meeting—instead, he met an assassin who knew exactly where he would be and when. The timing is devastating. Thompson, who sat at the center of massive federal investigations and antitrust probes, was silenced just as questions about potential insider trading were heating up. His wife reveals he had been receiving threats, but from whom? And why now, when federal investigators were closing in? The security footage tells a chilling story: a masked assailant with military precision, a silenced weapon, multiple precise shots, and a carefully planned escape route through Central Park. This wasn't random violence—this was a message. In a city with some of the strictest gun laws in America, how does a professional hitman execute a CEO in broad daylight and vanish without a trace? What they're desperately trying to hide is the connection between Thompson's death and the larger web of corruption plaguing our healthcare system. UnitedHealthcare was using AI models with a 90% error rate to deny care, according to recent lawsuits. More disturbing still, Thompson and other executives had offloaded over $100 million in stock just before DOJ investigations became public. Patriots, this is where we need your help. While the mainstream media works overtime to bury these connections, Next News Network remains committed to exposing the truth. But we can't do it alone. Your support at https://www.givesendgo.com/Keep-Next-... or via PayPal at https://www.paypal.com/donate?campaig... keeps us independent and allows us to dig deeper into stories they want buried. The threads connecting this assassination run deep. On February 21st, UnitedHealth discovered a cybersecurity breach. That same day, Nancy Pelosi made her second purchase of call options in Palo Alto Networks—the very company later chosen to investigate the breach. Coincidence? The timing of Thompson's death, amid federal investigations and mounting pressure, suggests powerful forces wanted him silenced. The surveillance footage reveals something else they're not telling you: the weapon used wasn't standard issue. Experts analyzing the footage identify characteristics of a specialized assassination tool—the Welrod pistol, known for its unique suppression capabilities. This wasn't some random gunman; this was a professional who knew exactly what they were doing. Thanks to citizen journalists on X, we've traced the killer's escape route using City Bike data. Only one bike left the vicinity within the crucial timeframe, tracked to Madison Avenue and East 82nd Street. The precision of this operation suggests an inside job, with knowledge of Thompson's schedule and movements. Tonight on RAW FEED, Gary Franchi breaks down the evidence they don't want you to see. From the suspicious stock sales to the DOJ investigations, from the AI denial system to the mysterious cybersecurity connections—every piece points to a coordinated effort to silence someone who knew too much. This isn't just about one CEO's death—it's about exposing the deep corruption within our healthcare system and its connections to the highest levels of power. Your support helps us continue this crucial investigation. Visit https://www.givesendgo.com/Keep-Next-... to help us keep the truth flowing. The mainstream media wants this story to disappear, but with your help, we won't let that happen. Thompson's assassination is just the tip of an iceberg that threatens to expose the entire corrupt system. Stay with us as we connect these dots and reveal the truth they're desperate to hide.

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They will not be able to walk the streets.

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[727Sky]

[Ninurta]

That pistol was NOT, I repeat with an emphatic stomp of the foot, NOT a Welrod.

I'm going to wait until all the "experts" that the news folks are hiring to analyze this shooting stop putting their ignorance on display all across the "news" services before I comment any further. It may be days. They seem to be having a good 'ol time with it.

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[SomeJackleg]

That pistol was NOT, I repeat with an emphatic stomp of the foot, NOT a Welrod.

I'm going to wait until all the "experts" that the news folks are hiring to analyze this shooting stop putting their ignorance on display all across the "news" services before I comment any further. It may be days. They seem to be having a good 'ol time with it.

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you are correct, hard to tell what kind of pistol it is, but you can see the difference in the pistol and silencer in the video and the screen shot. it not some kind of specialized sniper pistol from the appearance in the the video being shown to the public.

1 to 3 sec mark,





screen shoot,




besides if i'm not mistaken the both the Welrod and  BT VP9 are bolt actions / manual feed from the back.


variations of the Welrod

Search Page Images of the Welrod


video breakdown of the Welrod

[SomeJackleg]

And the B&T VP9

[SomeJackleg]

here is a complete video from start to finish. he is does seem to be cocking it every time he fires, but it looks to be spring loaded
and not a pull back and push forward action.

https://vidmax.com/video/230429-video-fo...-manhattan

[727Sky]

can see his face..

[SomeJackleg]

can see his face..

does look like the same guy, but here is another side by side, and before i started saying it was him i'd like to see image with the same jacket, fairly close to the time and place, with the same color backpack. God forbid he gets killed for some reason while being apprehended because he just happens to look like someone. 

back in my wild beer drinking hell raising days there was a bar i went to all the time and lots of folks always got me confused with another fella and call me by his name.  we were finally there one night at the same time, i personally didn't see the resemblance. 

[EndtheMadnessNow]

NYPD detectives discover words "deny," "defend" and "depose" [DDD] written on shell casings found at the scene where the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was killed, police say. This is starting to seem like a movie script.


UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson shot dead in Midtown Manhattan, masked gunman at large

Three words: "deny, defend and depose" are alleged tactics insurance companies are accused of using to avoid paying claims.

However, the New York Times reported officials found the words “delay” and “deny” on the bullet casings rather than “deny,” “defend” and “depose,” which would more directly reference the phrase commonly used to criticize the health insurance industry.

And from CNN Live Updates...

"The suspect in the killing of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson traveled via Greyhound bus from Atlanta to New York before the shooting, multiple law enforcement sources told CNN...the gunman arrived in New York City on November 24, 10 days before the shooting...He checked into the hostel on Manhattan’s Upper West Side using a fake New Jersey driver’s license...a female employee at the hostel [said] at one point, she asked the then masked man to lower his mask while flirting with him — which is when the photos released by the New York Police Department today were captured".

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

I am not saying what happened to the CEO was right or justified.

I will say that after dealing with the medical system here in America for the last year, with both myself and my mother, her I can truly understand why it happened.

I have never felt more rage and disgust, with anything, or anyone, as I have felt towards our medical system.

I was intelligent enough to know to collect receipts every step of the way, and to know when and how to use them to prove their underhanded moves, their incompetence, and their mistakes.

The medical system in America is more corrupt than our government and it cares even less about American citizens.

[Ninurta]

can see his face..

does look like the same guy, but here is another side by side, and before i started saying it was him i'd like to see image with the same jacket, fairly close to the time and place, with the same color backpack. God forbid he gets killed for some reason while being apprehended because he just happens to look like someone. 

back in my wild beer drinking hell raising days there was a bar i went to all the time and lots of folks always got me confused with another fella and call me by his name.  we were finally there one night at the same time, i personally didn't see the resemblance. 

I question whether "Mask Guy" and "Face Guy" are the same person. The eyes look different to me. In that last image of Face Guy, he's not wearing the back pack, but in another image of Face Guy above that, the backpack strap is black - darker than the jacket, whereas the images of Mask Guy show a gray backpack strap, lighter than the jacket. Also, in those last two images above, side by side, notice the difference in the chest pockets of the jacket. Mask Guy doesn't have any, but Face guy does.

Curious.

ETA:

EndtheMadnessNow.....

And from CNN Live Updates...

"The suspect in the killing of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson traveled via Greyhound bus from Atlanta to New York before the shooting, multiple law enforcement sources told CNN...the gunman arrived in New York City on November 24, 10 days before the shooting...He checked into the hostel on Manhattan’s Upper West Side using a fake New Jersey driver’s license...a female employee at the hostel [said] at one point, she asked the then masked man to lower his mask while flirting with him — which is when the photos released by the New York Police Department today were captured".

I question whether they are tracking the right guy, based upon the considerations I listed above.

I wonder whether anyone has bothered to drag the East River for his body. "Suicide" would be a convenient wrap-up to this incident, and it would tie up the loose ends. I wonder if he might not have "suicided" with a shot to the back of his own head and then jumped into the East River to hide his own body....

I can envision a scenario where the High and Mighty Muckety-Muck who actually ordered the hit hired a professional, who then hired a down and outer underling, or a True Believer ANTIFA underling, to do the actual hit due to the cameras in play everywhere, and then the professional provokes a "suicide" in the True Believer when they met to pay off the balance of the promised hit fee....

Stranger things have happened.

If something like that is the case, then when they find the body, the case be all wrapped up neatly... and they'll not bother to track upstream from that body to the professional or especially the Muckety Muck. Too many cutouts to track them when they can just have a neat solution to the whole thing by stopping at the True Believer body.

Cops like a neatly wrapped up case, and hate complications.

Who the hell engraves bullet casings? I'll tell ya who - either people who WANT to get caught, OR people who want to mislead as to motives... because it would focus attention toward True Believers, and more importantly it would distract attention AWAY from, say for instance, Some Rich Guy worried about getting testified against in an anti-trust case...

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[EndtheMadnessNow]

New enhanced photo of the lone gunman just dropped.

[EndtheMadnessNow]

Hot off the fabrication presses...

NY Times names suspect: "The man being questioned in Altoona in connection with the killing of Brian Thompson is Luigi Mangione, 26, according to three law enforcement officials."

NY Post: person of interest in CEO shooting is "former Ivy league student" and "tech wiz" who "liked online quotes from 'Unabomber' Ted Kaczynski raging against the country’s medical community."

From press conference: Police: person of interest's gun was a ghost gun that may have been made on a 3D printer.


Me finding out they arrested a man named Luigi Mangione as the alleged UCH assassin.

As the media sweeps it out to make room for the next new current thing, I believe it'd be a mistake to pretend like we all just didn't witness the mass public reaction to what happened to UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson on a midtown Manhattan sidewalk in broad daylight.

Do we know what actually happened? No, we don't. Who does? As with all major events, it's doubtful anyone who claims to actually does either. However, even those who say "it's all theater" severely underestimate the power of theater — a point we will continue to repeat because it's extremely important to comprehend. The magician on stage performing an amazing trick may be just that, just a magician. The audience even goes to the show aware of this fact. But their reactions are real.

It doesn't matter what spin the media attempts to apply to it after the fact. That public outrage — that squelchy Eldritch Abomination-esque thing writhing in the dark — is still right there, right under the surface, barely concealed.

I've been doing this a while, and I've never seen a reaction like that, not even after 9/11. Never.

Are there parallels in history? I'm sure. But as it goes in the modern moment, even historians have since been asking when is the last time anyone has witnessed the public react this way to the announcement that one man's life was given an untimely end? In my whole life I have never seen so many deeply visceral, personal reactions to a major event as this one.

How many people's lives did this one man's existence inadvertently touch?
That's before we even get into what he symbolically represented in the eyes of so many. That's before we even discuss the lawsuit his company was involved in accusing said company —  the 8th largest by revenue in the entire world and the largest health insurer in the U.S. who by far denies the most health insurance claims — of utilizing a weaponized AI to deny people care.

“UnitedHealth uses AI model with 90% error rate to deny care, lawsuit alleges: For the largest health insurer in the US, AI's error rate is like a feature, not a bug,” reads the Nov. 16, 2023 Ars Technica headline:

    UnitedHealthcare, the largest health insurance company in the US, is allegedly using a deeply flawed AI algorithm to override doctors' judgments and wrongfully deny critical health coverage to elderly patients. This has resulted in patients being kicked out of rehabilitation programs and care facilities far too early, forcing them to drain their life savings to obtain needed care that should be covered under their government-funded Medicare Advantage Plan. That's all according to a lawsuit filed this week in the US District Court...

The next day after the shooting occurred, Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield abruptly reversed its decision to implement what the media reported as “arbitrarily” capping anesthesia coverage during surgeries in certain states to a set time limit, a move which the American Society of Anesthesiologists president called “a cynical money grab” and “just the latest in a long line of appalling behavior by commercial health insurers looking to drive their profits up at the expense of patients and physicians providing essential care”.

It should go without saying that patients have literally no control over how long a surgery might last, and surgeons being put on what amounts to a financial gameshow timer seems ridiculous — dangerous at best and sounds like the plot of B horror film at worst.

When WFSB Channel 3 reported the decision's reversal on X in a post that has since received 8.7M views, this was the top comment underneath:



The bullet casings used in the crime supposedly had "deny, defend, depose" inscribed on them — an obvious reference to the tactics health insurance companies are known to employ in order to avoid paying claims.

It's only been a few days. There are memes. There's merch. While a manhunt for him is still underway, they're holding suspect look alike contests in NYC and stores are selling out of jackets that look like the one the gunman is wearing in the crime scene photo released by police. People forget that although Bonnie and Clyde were criminals, they were also widely seen as Depression-era folk heroes at the time. Robin Hood was technically a criminal, too.

This observation is in no way a condoning of vigilante justice whatever. It's merely an observation, but one I believe it is worth taking the time to fully consider.

Society wears a mask. Those who don't seem to realize it is a mask go about their daily lives acting as if that mask is the real true face of it.

Well, surprise. It isn't.

The pandemic should've taught more people to realize this by now. Others simply don't seem to want to face it (no pun intended). What keeps society together and functioning underneath it all is really just trust in a series of basic agreements, and those agreements have grown increasingly tenuous and fragile with each passing year — more especially since the authoritarianism unleashed in 2020, and perhaps most especially since the uptick in censorship of online discourse.

If We the People feel we have no outlets anywhere to redress our grievances and vent our frustration at a massive bureaucracy that has incredible power and control over our lives but refuses time and again to listen to us, that mask society wears is going to continue to slip until eventually it falls all the way off.

The French Revolution isn't some fictional horror story. It's a history lesson.

When people feel they have no other recourse for grievances in the face of an unmovable bureaucracy taking more than it gives, history shows what inevitably happens.

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
— John F. Kennedy

If the temperature of the nation just got taken on a mass scale, I'd say it's a bit feverish out there.

X article

[BIAD]

Luigi.

[Ninurta]

Imagine that.

An Italian, seemingly an effort to dredge up the dead ghosts of La Cosa Nostra. Who'd-a thunk it?

And "WAS a ghost gun, possibly printed on a 3D printer"? Really? Could the anti-gunners not think of any more panic buttons to push? Just how do they KNOW that the weapon WAS a "ghost gun"? What makes them think a 3D printer was involved? There was nothing in the video that would identify it as a "ghost gun", much less a 3D printed "ghost gun". There just wasn't enough resolution to determine whether a serial number had been deleted or omitted, and I've never seen any 3D printer files for a model like that. Not to say they don't exist, but I've looked, and not found any,

If they have possession of the gun, why is Luigi only a "person of interest" rather than a person under arrest?

This story doesn't smell any more sanguine than it did before they announced they'd found a patsy that is alleged to "look like" the guy they have on video - you know, the one in a hoodie and a face mask...

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[727Sky]

With A.I. and video cameras tracking this suspect, expect cameras to sprout like weeds in every city that can afford them. 

Here they solve most of their crimes by video surveillance or citizens stopping criminals.

[Ninurta]

With A.I. and video cameras tracking this suspect, expect cameras to sprout like weeds in every city that can afford them. 

Here they solve most of their crimes by video surveillance or citizens stopping criminals.

Just call us Londonistan, USA.

We have "red light cameras" even out here in the boonies at some locations, but as far as I can tell, none of them are actually connected to anything. Folks run 'em, nobody ever says shit about it.

I remember when they put stop light cameras in Greensboro, NC. Started with 5, one of which was constantly getting knocked down. I know for sure it got knocked down at least 6 times, and spray-painted with black spray paint 3 times. Folks apparently didn't like them much.I heard a lot of "if they're gonna catch me, they're gonna do it fair and square, the old fashioned way, with a cop and flashing lights and a pair of Mark 1 eyeballs that see me do it!" The city didn't like them much either, in the end. They were hauling folks into court on traffic light issued "tickets", but weren't getting many convictions. it seems that in court, one has the right to face their accuser, and no one was willing to bring a traffic camera into the court, much less a guy from Florida who was monitoring it, so a lot of folks skated on the tickets issued. How the hell can a camera swear an oath of office, and how can a little guy in Florida - not even a cop, just a guy - issue a legal ticket when he hasn't been sworn, either.. much less sworn to enforce law in North Carolina? There is a jurisdictional issue there that hasn't been adequately explored.

A guy tried to steal my truck in Kansas City, and we had him on camera. It was funny as shit - he tried to pry open a back window to get in, and it let loose all of a sudden sending both he and the window flying half way across the street landing on his ass.... but that camera was at a private business across the street, not a government camera. After he landed on his ass in the street, he lost heart and ghosted, because he knew whose truck it was and figured that much noise was gonna draw unwanted attention. He stayed down in Westport for a   while until he figured I'd gotten over it, but he figured wrong. Soon as he came back, folks saw him and called me, so I went to have a chat with him about damages - he could either pay to replace the window, OR I could disassemble him, take the cost of the window replacement out of his ass..  I figured that was fair enough - give him a chance to redeem himself rather than just bending him all up without recourse.

Wasn't long after the window was repaired that I left Kansas City. We didn't need any government interference to sort that out, Matter of fact, the cops were utterly useless - they wouldn't even come out to that neighborhood at night to take a report. I had to go to them so they could stay safe while they took the report.

So, the cameras CAN be useful, if used properly, and they can be utterly useless if used improperly. I'm still not convinced the guy they have is the right guy, and I'm almost certain that the two guys on all the pictures being spread around - Mask Guy and Face Guy - are not the same person. They look way too different to me I think the case may be being built on a lot of fluff and nothing, with some cop agencies being way too eager to yell "look at us! We're gittin' 'er done!" And very possibly barking up the wrong tree in their haste to make themselves look good.

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[EndtheMadnessNow]

Just some added media bits & bytes...

Investigators say Luigi Nicholas Mangione had $8,000 USD on him and 2,000 in foreign currency. Also Faraday bags to block cellular data.





CNN on person of interest's manifesto:

-- Included the quotes “These parasites had it coming” and “I do apologize for any strife and trauma, but it had to be done"
-- Said shooter acted alone
-- "The document railed against the health care industry and suggested violence is the answer".

According to various media, Luigi Mangione reviewed the Unabomber manifesto "violence is necessary to survive":



NY Times: "Friends said that Mangione lived with significant, sometimes debilitating back pain, and underwent surgery for it last year."






Live Updates: Police Say Suspect in C.E.O.’s Killing Likely Saw Himself as a Hero


Across the pond BBC chimes in...


BBC Live Updates


Luigi Mangione is cousins with the sitting Maryland State Delegate Nino Mangione, who represents District 42A.


We are told The Mangiones are prominent in Baltimore — and are particularly known for their philanthropy and work in the healthcare sector. Probably friends with Nancy Pelosi too. 
Luigi Mangione, a 26-year-old whose father led Mangione Family Enterprises, was himself off to a prominent start: valedictorian of the 2016 class at The Gilman School, a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania and an early career data engineer.

Luigi Mangione’s sprawling family found success after patriarch’s rise


Dozens of media vultures picked up this footage of Luigi Mangione’s high school valedictorian speech in 2016:
https://x.com/ViralContentz/status/1866230496063078422


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The alleged assassin’s name translates from the Italian as:

Luigi = renowned warrior
Mangione = big eater

Apparently, a big eater of McDonald’s.



This world is very strange and always gets stranger when you examine the details. It's almost like we're all contained or trapped in an ARG.

[EndtheMadnessNow]

UnitedHealthcare CEO murder suspect fights extradition


Talk while you can. The window closes fast.



"Time is a flat circle. Everything we have done or will do we will do over and over and over again—forever."
— Rustin Cohle, True Detective




This is Nietzsche’s Doctrine of Eternal Recurrence