(08-16-2023, 09:06 PM)Grace Wrote:(08-16-2023, 03:38 PM)Schmoe Wrote: I belong to the Aliens subreddit, and was having a discussion with somebody that I thought I'd share here to get some input.
Tom Delonge is at it again with his cryptic tweet bullshit. I have nothing against Tom, but his appearance on Joe Rogan was a joke, and he even did an Ask Me Anything at the other site, which was an even bigger joke.
The gist of both was, "I know things, and know people who know things, but I can't tell you."
So on this subreddit, we were talking about Tom, and I mentioned to somebody that Steven Greer called Tom, Elizondo, and all their TTSA-former-intel-spook A-Team ilk, a bunch of government plants. Which to me was funny, because I sometimes look at Greer and wonder the same thing about him.
The other redditor said that Greer in the past said Tom is part of the Disclosure Project. I said, then Greer is contradicting himself, because he just said that about not trusting TTSA.
So this got me wondering. Apparently Greer and Delonge were friends in all of this, years ago, to the point that Delonge would hang out with Greer at Greer's house. I'm thinking they had a falling out, possibly around the time Tom started meeting all these high-up, in the know, government agents and officials.
Greer has maintained that the aliens are benevolent, and want to guide us in the right direction. Delonge seems to be going with the "threat" narrative that Elizondo/TTSA likes to push.
Then I started thinking, why Tom Delonge in the first place? Is it because he's long been known as a UFO-enthusiast, and is super popular among the younger generation? Is it because "they" know that more and more people don't trust the government, so the message/narrative might be better received from Tom's mouth over, say, some unknown government agent, or even the president?
I'm not saying Tom is malicious in this, I think he means well, and so does Greer. I also agree with Greer that Tom is being used. Hell, if I was suddenly invited to these secret meetings with people in the know, and they put on an act and told me terrible things about the alien threat, I might have gone along with it too. Probably not though, I'm sure I mistrust the government more than Tom ever did.
The TTSA crowd keeps calling them a threat. I think the only threat they pose is to the petrodollar, and that has all the elites riled up and terrified. Say the aliens came here to break our chains of the rampant corruption throughout the world's governments, businesses, etc. The elites would positively shit themselves. Maybe THAT is the big threat to national security.
As for now, I side with Greer.
This is just me - I don't believe that even if there was advanced intelligent life in other galaxies they would be able to make the trip here. Everything we know about physics makes such a trip impossible. It's no day trip so everything we know to be true about physics is either false, or it's impossible to make such a trip in a lifetime.
And let's just say someone could get here. Why? I mean really... Anything like this is about resources, and it takes more to make the trip than would be the gain. But IF there was gain and they are that far advanced of our abilities and knowledge there would be nothing stopping them from taking whatever they would want, it would be exclusively a military operation because it's not like our intellect is anything to trade another species that's advanced of us to such a degree. Why piddle paddle for a hundred years abducting farmers and hillbillies?
We aren't hearing anything different now than we were before really, there's always been the odd military guy saying he saw something crazy weird - and we are in an all out battle for the nation.
The government wants us all distracted thinking we are idiots instead of paying attention to what they are up to in other areas.
It's simple misinformation put out by Uncle Sam because a large enough portion of him turned commie and they're hoping we don't actually notice the coup.
Just my thoughts... But clearly, I'm not an aliens person.
On the other hand... I'm all in on other dimensions to THIS universe and someone cracking that code and being able to more easily traverse to our dimension. Then sure, abduct farmer Tom for funsies and bring him back when you're done. Learning about what's close to you is terribly important because if they cracked said code to traverse dimensions then we would eventually be able to as well, unassisted. That knowledge would be handy to have if there was conflict concerns about we humans. "How to kill us or otherwise defeat us easily 101... "
I agree. If they are coming here, I don't think it's from some other galaxy hundreds of light-years away. Even if their propulsion was way more advanced than our own, it's moot because of the distance.
According to Einstein, wormholes apparently are possible, but the energy required to make one must be astronomical. Like you said, what would the point be in doing that? Unless they themselves don't understand how exactly they came into being, and are looking for answers, just like we do. Or maybe they have a way of traveling interdimensionally.
Overall I agree with what you're saying, it feels like a psyop.