(08-07-2023, 03:13 PM)SomeJackleg Wrote: i believe that there is a hell and yes Jesus taught about it, if memory serves he talks about hell at least 11times in Mathew and for some reason i'm thinking it maybe 20 times in both the the old and new testament.
It's definitely mentioned in there. But how am I to know just because there are words on paper ... and why would I simply believe? I know what I know because I was shown ... and then I asked ... and then my question was answered ... and I was satisfied. Sometimes I feel bad because I'm not able to show everyone, but I have been able to show a few.
(08-07-2023, 03:13 PM)SomeJackleg Wrote: i might catch some grief from it when i get there, but here's a song that fits the way i lived the first part of my 62 years.
Our family preacher was a fire & brimstone Southern Baptist. Killed himself out of shame over something he did. This happened when I was a kid. I had already been taught that people who kill themselves are consigned to Hell. And then the preacher himself goes and does it. I should'a known right then, but the indoctrination was too strong. Just because there's a church and just because there's a book ... doesn't make 'em right (or wrong for that matter).
There's a bunch of different churches and a bunch of different versions of the Bible. Some of 'em have even died out. Others have been wordsmithed to a point that they're fundamentally changed. And what are they wordsmithing on? A book that was radically altered by the First Council of Nicaea ... hundreds of years after the story of The Crucifixion ... in the land of Turkey ... at the direction of the people who killed Christ? I'm left wondering what it was they didn't want in there. What they didn't want people to really know and/or understand.
One of these day I'm gonna have to organize us all a trip to Thailand ... see if @"727Sky"#11 can help us out with some of the arrangements. Spend a day down at Wat Pho and walk around the Phra Ubosot after the monks have arrived. Anyone who makes _that_ trip will see and know for themselves if they just stick to: For where two or more are gathered together in my name, there I Am, in the midst of them. -Matthew 18:20