(07-07-2023, 07:37 AM)Ninurta Wrote:(07-06-2023, 11:50 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:(07-06-2023, 11:11 PM)Ninurta Wrote: Legislation is for folks who obey legislation. When they legislate so much that life is impossible if you follow the rules, I foresee a lot more rule-breakers coming to the fore.
For example, they can try to outlaw herds for all but the rich, but I foresee cattle rustling making a comeback when they do.
Where a will exists, a way will be made. To quote an old movie about dinosaurs, "life will find a way".
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The problem is that money talks, and if you have no money and nothing to barter with, then your options become a lot more limited.
Even black marketeers want to get paid.
That's true, just like it is true right now - if you don't have the money, you can't buy the stuff, on any market - black, gray, or WalMarket. The only difference will be in the medium of exchange accepted. For example, I never have, and never will, accept any sort of "cryptocurrency" as payment for goods or services. The only exception would be government payments when they go full retard with crypto. I would have to accept their crypto in that event if I were to get any government payments, but nothing prevents me from dumping that crypto as soon as I get it into tangible products as trade items for the barter economy.
It's no different than when I was getting unemployment payments. I'd take the money out of the account in cash as soon as it hit, and kept the cash handy so that there was no plastic tracking going on. When they outlaw cash, then one will just have to switch to purchase of trade items instead - after all, "cash" is really just paper icons for trade items.
So if, for instance, someone hires me to do a security survey of their facility, and all they have to pay me in is crypto or "CBDCs", then I don't take the job, because as far as I'm concerned they have no money to hire me with. For all practical purposes, as far as I'm concerned, they are every bit as "broke" as someone trying to pay off a black marketeer with nothing but trackable crypto tokens.
The way you wreck an economy is to refuse to participate in it. Crypto, CBDCs, and all their other schemes are every bit as wreckable as what they are trying to to the the actual money economy right now. People can sit on great big piles of cryptocurrency, and starve entirely to death if no one accepts it as "money" when it's time to buy food.
All trade is actually "barter" - it's just that we have allowed the government to create "tokens" in the form of dollars to represent the actual value being traded. CBDCs are also nothing more than government created "tokens" as representation of the value being traded. CBDCs are just more trackable and controllable, because they can have limits and rules set on what can be bought or sold via them.
If no one uses them, then they have no "value", because they have no intrinsic value, and no one values them enough to use them, opting for harder currency instead as a medium of exchange or "token" representing value.
Things ONLY have "value" when people value them. If they institute any crypto scheme, and no one honors, accepts, or values it, then what value does it really have? It may be used for large scale corporate international transactions, but on the streets, if no one accepts it, then it may as well just be invisible and ethereal bits and bytes subject to vanishing if the power goes out. Oh, wait....
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You just said it all.