(06-22-2023, 06:46 AM)Ninurta Wrote:(06-22-2023, 04:00 AM)Schmoe Wrote: I go back and forth all the time with what our military would do in the event of some sort of civil war within the United States. Part of me thinks there's no way they fight against their own civilians. Then I think, in this age of wokeness, especially in the military, I'm not so sure. Combine that wokeness with your average grunts being gung-ho 18-22 year olds, and I'm just not so sure they wouldn't.
Once upon a time, I was sure the military would rebel against orders to fire on civilians. Then, for while, I was teetering on the fence. Now, I'm as sure as I can be that they would fire. I think that is the entire purpose for woke-ing up the military, and labeling anyone questioning the Party Line, even if only verbally, as "domestic terrorists".
It looks to me like they are trying to put the finishing touches on it, and may be ready to spring before long.
Furthermore, you can't always be sure of which neighbors or acquaintances may drop the dime on you, and bring smoke on you. That is the kind of society they are setting up - just like in WWII Germany, just like in Soviet Russia, just like in Cuba, Nicaragua, Cambodia, Rhodesia, Angola, and any number of communist hell-holes that sprang up like mushrooms after a rain during the Cold War.
And as you observe, it's the youth that fight the wars... they are going after the youth to indoctrinate them... and when they are ready, they will most likely aim them squarely at the domestic population to "weed out" the dissidents.
This is no longer the American military of our day, or of our parent's day - it's being molded into the WWII military of Germany, or the post-revolution military of the Soviets, or the post-revolution military of Cuba... etc. What gives hope is that at least some of the young-'uns are seeing through the bullshit, and electing not to join a military that may be turned upon their parents, or grandparents, or friends.
But just not joining is not going to be enough, because some ARE still joining. They need to be preparing to repel the Progressives' forces. If they are not prepared, they will get rolled right over. It's our jobs to prepare them.
"Raise a child in the way he should go, and when he is old, he will not depart from it". WE need to be doing the raising, and disallowing the Progressives to get their foot in the door. Not just oppose them, positively disallow them.
It's not just our lives that depend upon it, it's also the lives of our kids and grandkids, for the next 60 or 70 or 80 years.
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Having neighbors rat you out is certainly possible, as well as people you work with. In that case, I'm screwed with the amount of mouthing off I've done.
I'm terrified of what my kids will deal with when they're older and I'm gone, and my future grandkids. I envy people who live off the grid in many ways. Nobody is untouchable, but being off the radar trumps being in neighborhoods if that were to ever happen. Maybe those in isolation are untouchable in a way the government wouldn't waste the resources to weed them out, they'd be focused on the populated areas. For a while, at least. At least I'm getting out of this damned city soon. Can't think of many worse places to be if shit ever meets fan.