Well, I kinda sorta checked into this, and it's my understanding - which may be imperfect - that the main reason the Mud Pit is in jeopardy is that the bad behaviors it allows, like trolling behaviors, are bleeding out of the Mud Pit and into the rest of the site, thus negating the very reason the Mud Pit was created for. Instead of containing the rowdiness in the Mud Pit, it's getting slimed all across their site. Why bother even having one if users are just going to ignore the boundaries it represents and drag their shit all over the rest of the site?
I can understand that. It's why some folks can't have nice things - they ignore boundaries.
The simplest way to "fix" it, barring just shutting it down, would be for the users to respect the boundaries that have been set up, or open a season on the miscreants when they act up outside of the Mud Pit, and not set a bag limit for the mods. While I was running through, I saw several folks whining about "muh free speech!" Fuck that. If they can't couple responsibility with their freedom of speech, they will eventually have neither.
Every right you have is tempered by a concurrent responsibility, and as a species, it seems that humanity is getting a lot better at ignoring their responsibilities while insisting on their rights, just as children do. But we're not children, we are (allegedly) adults, and ought properly to be able to behave ourselves as adults do.
The reason we have so few rules here is mostly because I'm a slack bastard and don't want to have to remember an entire book of rules to have to enforce. However, having fewer rules has side effects, like being able to enforce them much more strongly, since there isn't as much to have to patrol for - we can devote more time and attention to torturing and executing miscreants, because we don't have to continually hunt for the next one.
The simplest way to avoid the crosshairs here is to just act like an adult, or at least pretend you have aspirations to become one. That pretty much takes care of all the rules without having to memorize a lengthy T+C chart. Disagree all you want, cuss all you want, but do it respectfully, by not attacking another member. Attack dogs attack, but we are not attack dogs any more than we are children. We are adult humans, and ought, by rights, to be able to act as such, assuming our parents did their fucking jobs raising us.
If they didn't, the world has no pity, and it doesn't care. Me neither. I can occasionally come down like the wrath of the gods when defending my children, and as it happens, "my children" includes all of the members here.
ATS has a different operation model, and that's the main difference, aside from having a much larger membership base to have to herd. So they set their boundaries, some folks seem to ignore those, which makes it necessary for them to either repair the fences, plow up the whole pasture, or shoot the fence-crossing coyotes... or any combination thereof.
Instead of bitching and whining about it in the ATS thread Darko started while looking for solutions, the members ought to try and appreciate the fact that Darko is looking for solutions that don't involve burning down their doll house, so that they can keep their nice things.
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I can understand that. It's why some folks can't have nice things - they ignore boundaries.
The simplest way to "fix" it, barring just shutting it down, would be for the users to respect the boundaries that have been set up, or open a season on the miscreants when they act up outside of the Mud Pit, and not set a bag limit for the mods. While I was running through, I saw several folks whining about "muh free speech!" Fuck that. If they can't couple responsibility with their freedom of speech, they will eventually have neither.
Every right you have is tempered by a concurrent responsibility, and as a species, it seems that humanity is getting a lot better at ignoring their responsibilities while insisting on their rights, just as children do. But we're not children, we are (allegedly) adults, and ought properly to be able to behave ourselves as adults do.
The reason we have so few rules here is mostly because I'm a slack bastard and don't want to have to remember an entire book of rules to have to enforce. However, having fewer rules has side effects, like being able to enforce them much more strongly, since there isn't as much to have to patrol for - we can devote more time and attention to torturing and executing miscreants, because we don't have to continually hunt for the next one.
The simplest way to avoid the crosshairs here is to just act like an adult, or at least pretend you have aspirations to become one. That pretty much takes care of all the rules without having to memorize a lengthy T+C chart. Disagree all you want, cuss all you want, but do it respectfully, by not attacking another member. Attack dogs attack, but we are not attack dogs any more than we are children. We are adult humans, and ought, by rights, to be able to act as such, assuming our parents did their fucking jobs raising us.
If they didn't, the world has no pity, and it doesn't care. Me neither. I can occasionally come down like the wrath of the gods when defending my children, and as it happens, "my children" includes all of the members here.
ATS has a different operation model, and that's the main difference, aside from having a much larger membership base to have to herd. So they set their boundaries, some folks seem to ignore those, which makes it necessary for them to either repair the fences, plow up the whole pasture, or shoot the fence-crossing coyotes... or any combination thereof.
Instead of bitching and whining about it in the ATS thread Darko started while looking for solutions, the members ought to try and appreciate the fact that Darko is looking for solutions that don't involve burning down their doll house, so that they can keep their nice things.
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