The demise of NATO ?

[Ninurta]

I agree, and I think there are several other countries that I think would make better allies. If NATO doesn't want to send their own troops that is most certainly their choice, but to shut down U.S Access to bases just shows they don't really want to be allies.

Absolutely. There is no point in forcing friendship - you don't wring a fella's arm up between his shoulder blades and force him to be a friend. That's not just nuts, it's counter=productive and breeds resentments. Instead, you take your ball and glove and go find someone else who wants to be friends and play catch, and leave the folks who don't want to alone to do their own thing.

There has been entirely too much emphasis on "cooperation" ever since King George (Bush) II was yammering on about his "coalition of the willing" to invade a country that didn't need invading. Ever since then, every time someone gets into a tussle, he thinks he needs to call in his boys , his posse, to handle it. Be a man. If you pick a fight, handle it yourself... and leave the rest of the world to handle theirs.

You have to be able to do that before you go out looking for allies. Who wants to ally with someone too weak to sit at the Big Boy's table all by himself if need be? Why do we always need a "posse" or a "gang" to back us up? They don't necessarily have to actively help in most cases, but neither should they actively thwart us.

I think most of it boils down to Globalism. In the UK and the EU, the Globalists are destroying it by inviting masses of invaders in to wreck the culture. In the US, which is already and always has been multicultural,, they need a different approach, so they're destroying it by convincing us we are too weak to stand on our own, that we need a "global community" to continue existing, or "consensus" or some other such rot.. There are times when you need allies, but in most situations you don't... and in NO situation do you need an "ally" that works against you instead of with you.

It's probably really the exact same thing at work in both countries, but using different avenues of approach. In both cases, the objective is to convince folks that they can't stand without having a"multicultural" gang at their back, but in reality those multicultural gangs are slowly and systematically disassembling us any-which-a-way they can, by destroying our native root cultures.

So, buh-bye, NATO. Americans don't like having Moslems tell us how to live, what to do, and when to do it. Clearly you do, so we find ourselves at odds now as the US tries to put a stop to that. We'll try not to let the door hit our asses on our way out. We need to concentrate our money and efforts on allies who prefer to help instead of hinder. You'll still get the benefits of the effort, even if you never lift a finger to assist. After all, if Iran is no longer threatening anyone at all, that also means they are no longer threatening you, either. That way, you can save all the missile defenses you have to deal with the Russians you are constantly trying to piss of, rather than having to waste any of them on Iranian missiles incoming on your location.

NATO doesn't have to go away - the US can just leave it, and NATO can sink or swim on it's own. NATO can continue to exist, we just don't have to participate in it's madness, foot it's bills, or run to it's assistance. After all, it's not doing any of that for us, so why should we continue to  reciprocate something that is obviously not there to be reciprocated?.

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