(03-19-2026, 02:42 PM)imitator Wrote: Personally, I wouldn’t rule out extraterrestrial at all. If something behaves in ways we don’t understand doesn’t mean it still can’t be alien. It could be extraterrestrial, interdimensional, some mix of both, or something that doesn’t fit any of our categories yet.
I personally HAVE to rule out interstellar visitors. I cursed myself when I studied physics and astronomy. In doing so, I realized just how vast the distances of space are, and was forced to admit that anything short of several generations was not enough time for a physical object... be it an organism or a space ship... to get from one star to another in this universe. It shattered all of my carefully crafted conceptions of aliens from outer space. So, not entirely impossible, but such a vast undertaking that mere curiosity to study other species isn't sufficient reason to engage in such monumental undertakings. I can't find any reason short of colonization that would justify taking a trip you'd never see the end of, but which your great great greet grandchildren - or even further down the line - MIGHT see the end of.
One other possibility might be for non-physical, non-corporeal objects to travel those distances. But if they are non-physical, how could they interact with our physical being?
Quote:There was a recent Popular Mechanics piece, Fourth-Dimensional Aliens Could Be Spying On Us, and even they entertain that what people are seeing could be higher-dimensional beings intersecting with our reality, not just something traveling here from another star system.
Link: Aliens From the Fourth Dimension May Be Invading Our World And We Don’t Even Know It
And if that’s true, it would explain a lot about the secrecy. Saying we’re not alone is one thing. Telling the public we may be dealing with something that exists outside our normal understanding of reality is something else entirely. That kind of disclosure would freak people out... probably make a lot of people paranoid or go crazy.
I don't necessarily conceive of it as a "higher" dimension, or even really a dimension at all as the concept is commonly understood. I see it more as alternate universes. Think "bubble universes" abutting or adjoining our own (or, more likely, somehow "intermingled" with our own universe, but separated from it by some other mechanism than distance or direction, maybe something like a phase shift), but perhaps with slightly different laws of physics that would allow for things such as "plasma intelligences" and the like.
Quote:I’ve got hunting IR goggles myself, and they’re a lot better at catching stuff overhead than most people realize. I’ve seen a few things with them while looking at the stars...
These things have been reported around all kinds of sensor systems too, especially in SIGINT and electronic warfare. Radar, magnetometers, etc... especially in hyperspectral systems catching weird stuff across different wavelengths.
That's a part of my thinking, too. "Alien" intelligences would not necessarily have developed being bound to the same sensory range as us humans. Even among earth-bound organisms, other species can see and/or hear farther into the spectrum than we can, or into different ranges of the spectrum. If that is true here, how much more so might it be true of beings from... "elewhere"?
Quote:Yeah… the cloud is just someone else’s computer. No way I’d want that anywhere near a .gov setup lol. I’ve got my own NAS anyway, and I trust that 100 times more.
Exactly. if it's on MY computer or storage, then it can rightfully be considered "mine". If it's on someone else's computer, then not so much. "Possession is nine-tenths of the law."
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