Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off

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Then again consensus can show the true feelings and desires of the majority. In this case, the majority are against Israel and the US in starting this war.

Agreed that consensus is entirely dependent on beliefs or feeling. That is not in dispute. I do, however, dispute the assertion that a "majority" has reached any such consensus on the matter. That has not been demonstrated within the sphere of my own reach, and I have no reason to believe it has been reached beyond that sphere, either.

I would also dispute the assertion that "Israel and the US  started this war". That's just not the view from down here in the trenches. It's possible that, if the propaganda machine works enough overtime, they may manufacture that view, but it's just not here yet.

BTW, I do appreciate the civil debate on these matters. They're important - too important to let emotion get in in the way of. :thumbsup:

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Well the proof is in the pudding when Trump asks other countries to send in their warships to the Strait of Hormuz and he gets back silence.

Why doesn't he send his own warships there?

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We all embrace different truths, but with the caveat that it was always opinion-based.

A truth is that God exists.

We allow that.

The problem is when we accept "truth" as "fact".

Like men having babies, or Iran is an innocent nation.

Nobody said Iran is an innocent nation, I said Israel attacked Iran first so International Law kicked in.

Some facts need to be proven as truth is what I said also.

The majority of people do not want this war: that is fact.

Where does God exist?

*shrugs*

Again, your opinion.

Not fact.

"Opinions are like assholes, at least most women marry one".
-My wife

There are opinions then there are majority consensus on assholes attacking other countries to further their own selfish goals, along with International Laws spelling it out.