(11 hours ago)Ninurta Wrote:(Yesterday, 04:16 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Afghanistan has the most horrific domestic violence against women in the world and guess which country created that or allowed that happen? Don't see it? Don't care?
Pakistan.
The Taliban, current government of Afghanistan and arbiter of "morals" there, was wholly and entirely created by Pakistani ISI in or around 1993 as a means of exercising Pakistani control over Afghanistan via a proxy / puppet government. This occurred in the power vacuum left by the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan, which the US also declined to fill.
The original taliban was recruited from Pakistani madrasas by Pakistani ISI. a "madrasa" is a school, and it is built into the very name of the Taliban - "taliban" means "students". One student is a "talib".
As is usual with these sorts of things, however, the Taliban grew beyond Pakistani control, and is now a thorn in their side instead.
Original US culpability is in not filling the power vacuum left by the Soviets ourselves. Some of us argued strongly in favor of doing just that, but we were ignored. We weren't even over-ruled... just ignored.
Secondary US culpability lies with the BidenHarris administration in the US, who ran away from Afghanistan so fast it left a hole in the air... and yet another power vacuum to be filled. The Taliban was the only immediately available force to fill it.
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US's culpability was explained very well in Afghanistan. Now how about the US's culpability in regards to the rise and emergence of ISIL/ISIS in Iraq?
Again, I'll say... Don't see it? Don't care? Walk away and leave your government messes for someone else to clean up?
(11 hours ago)putnam6 Wrote:(11 hours ago)quintessentone Wrote:(Yesterday, 05:17 PM)Ninurta Wrote:(Yesterday, 03:44 PM)quintessentone Wrote: If Iran wanted to destroy Israel they could have done it easily within that timeframe. Israel can't win any wars without the USA .
Not old enough to remember the Six Day War, I see.
Quote:It's not about that it's about Zionist donors buying your government leaders to push Zionist expansionist goals in that region.
That is perilously close to the White Supremacist doctrine regarding the "ZOG" (Zionist Occupation Government) in America. I remember the KKK pushing that pretty hard.
No one else back then, just the White Supremacists.
Are yo asserting that the White Supremacists were correct in their assumptions?
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I followed the money and I hazard a guess so do the extreme right wingers in your country.
"Miriam Adelson, a dual Israeli-American billionaire and widow of casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, is one of the most prominent Zionist billionaires to donate to Donald Trump’s campaign. She has contributed $100 million to Trump’s 2024 campaign through her political action committee (PAC), making her the single largest donor to his re-election effort. Her support has been tied to her staunch pro-Israel stance, including advocating for the annexation of the occupied West Bank and pushing for U.S. recognition of Israeli sovereignty over disputed territories."
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/miria...king-trump
As if the left doesn't take in money from questionable sources
If PACs were illegal, Hillary, Joe, and Kamala's campaigns would have run out of funds in 3 months.
Trumps support of Israel goes way back to before he was President
Quote:Does Trumps support of Israel goes way back to before he was President
Yes, Donald Trump's support for Israel does extend back well before his presidency began in 2017, though it became more prominently political during his 2015–2016 campaign. Here's a breakdown based on historical records:Overall, while Trump's most visible pro-Israel actions occurred during and after his first term (e.g., the Abraham Accords), his personal and public support traces back at least to the early 2000s through philanthropy, events, and statements.
- Early 2000s actions: In 2001, shortly after the September 11 attacks, Trump provided his private plane to then-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani for a solidarity visit to Israel amid terror threats, demonstrating early backing for the country. In 2004, during a period of heightened violence in the Gaza Strip, Trump served as the grand marshal of the annual Salute to Israel Parade in New York City—the largest pro-Israel gathering in the U.S. at the time—despite the risks, as many others declined the role. He has described himself as a "lifelong supporter" of Israel in this context.
- Pre-campaign statements and ties: Trump's real estate business in New York involved significant connections to Jewish and pro-Israel communities. For instance, in 2015 (before his presidential run gained full steam), he recorded a video endorsing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's reelection, calling himself a "big fan of Israel" and emphasizing the need for a strong Israeli leader. His daughter Ivanka's marriage to Jared Kushner in 2009 and her conversion to Judaism further deepened personal family links to Jewish and Israeli causes.
- Campaign evolution: During his 2016 presidential campaign, Trump's stance solidified into strong pro-Israel rhetoric, such as pledging to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. However, earlier in the campaign (around 2015–2016), he occasionally suggested a "neutral" approach to Israel-Palestine negotiations to appeal broadly, which drew criticism from some pro-Israel groups. By his presidency, this shifted to highly supportive policies like recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital and the Golan Heights as Israeli territory.
I don't like it, but every country is ruled by money...
How much is Carney taking in from China or the Middle East?
It's the nature of the political governance beast.
All the world's governments have "procedural issues," systematic flaws in the body politic.
End 2-party monopoly
Ban lobbying and PACS
real terms limits and age restrictions
That Zionist billionaire is not a questionable source, it's quite clear her goals for Israel and Trump.
Trump had no choice but to do what he was told to do.
Truth fears no question. Anon