(03-12-2026, 12:25 PM)Ninurta Wrote: Well this is just crawling all over the map, now ain't it?
I'm being told that Zionism isn't the same as Judaism, it's a form of Nationalism. Then I'm told well, maybe it is the Jews, but only the rich ones. Then I'm told, well, maybe any rich person is a Zionist. Then I'm told it's the Christians, they're the Zionists. Then I'm told that it's pretty much anyone that thinks nations should exist.
So maybe I should just go back to the simpler and original KKK definition of it just being "dem jooz". Otherwise, it seems to be everyone on Earth.
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Explanation: Good point and well stated!
Personal Disclosure: As I understand it, to be a Zionist is, no matter who or what you are, that you support the modern creation of the secular state of Israel AND its right to self defense, which would make me a tacit token Zionist. I think the Jewish people of the Jewish Diaspora, who lost their homeland, world wide since the Romans slaughtered most of them in Judea about 2000 years ago, after a biblical prophesy by Jesus was fulfilled, deserved to recreate it as best they could when they could and where they could, even if they had to lie, kill, backstab supposed friends, create false flags that ended up with other Jewish people being killed, generate conspiracy theories about themselves and MORE than that even etc!
The reason I say that is because we have two things that stand out about the Jewish people, aka the remnants (1 tribe out of 12) of the historic biblical nation known as ISRAEL ... 1stly they have been thrown out of 200+ nations since that time after being invited in and then due to being restricted in work practices to only be allowed to deal in gold and banking and loansharking money to typically Christian Popes and Christian Royalty, so as to conduct wars against their 'Christian' royal neighbors or conversely have a crusade against the Islamic Muslims invading Europe, commonly known as the Moors, via URSURY based loans, which Jewish people are forbidden by the Torah from using on their own people and Medieval Christians where also forbidden by the Catholic church from being used against their fellow Christians etc, but somewhere along the line [pls go and read the William Shakespeare play called the Merchant of Venice ok. Remember SHYLOCK AND HIS POUND OF FLESH DEAL?] it became fully acceptable for Jewish banksta's to use URSURY against Christian Royals, who wanted a local war for whatever economic and political reasons and were willing to make a deal with the 'devils' known as the killers of Christ, and over 2000+ years of that we have the Ashkenazi Jews with a 5 to 10 points higher IQ than even the hyper intelligent Asians living in wester soicety and culture, due to evolutionary forces at play that forced them to evolve to be highly deceptively cunning and extraordinary mathematical geniuses, since although they were basically gifted the role of being bankers, they were despised as Christ killers and reviled as URSURY using bastards and were subsequently thrown out of 200+ nations over that 2000 year time frame, which sorta suited the Christian Royals who would rather not pay that high compound interest bearing loans that they had made contact with the Jewish people and subsequently money/gold loan contracts with in the first place. EVERYONE DESERVES A HOME! And when ones culture has taken a serious beating for 2000+ years that has certain effects, [such as MOSSAD and their motto "By deception, we will wage WAR!"] that play out in the worlds geo-economic-political sphere of today! Such is the nature of being both BLESSED Chosen Ones of GOD and also CURSED Pariahs for being the killers of GOD [aka Jesus]!
I also have read but can't recall which old testament scriptures that refer to the historic biblical nation of ISRAEL being a CURSE to OTHER nations and used by GOD to punish those other nations for whatever reasons GOD had for doing so at that time in ancient history, but I am sure I read them once upon a time and that those scriptures exist and yet I am currently too lazy to go looking for them and you'll just have to trust me on that matter ok [or go look them up yourselves pls].
In summing that all up I'd like to quote SHYLOCK from Shakespeare's play ...by using this Youtube video ...
AND 2ndly ...
Due to the above factors that I have just laid out, the Jewish people and their culture was RESTRICTED to living in GHETTO's for centuries ... and here is a song by Elvis Presley about that kind of shithole ...
Ghetto's don't discriminate, they will take anyone and everyone, regardless of skin color and or race, high to low intelligence, young or old, well and firm or sick and infirm, sane or insane, rich, middle income or poor, males and or females ... and the GHETTO will chew them up and spit them back out as broken people leaving generational broken fatherless families, promiscuous welfare queen widows married to the government state with half a dozen+ orphaned lower public schooled educated children by different absent alcohol and drug fueled violent gangbanger fathers ... with all of them fighting for their very lives against everybody else, to just survive and possibly hope and pray and one day escape the Ghetto slum they find themselves trapped within.
IF anyone doesn't think that that ^^^^ [specific examples would be the Jewish Ghetto's in NAZI Germany during WW2 and their subsequent Armageddon Extermination Pogrom re: up to 6million Jewish deaths in the Nazi Death camps] hasn't had deeply marked affect upon the ancient and also recent psyke of the Jewish people, then I don't think nor feel that such people are being logical, rational, reasonable, selfless human beings possessing the ability to think deeply upon these matters with empathy and compassion for their fellow Homo-Sapiens aka MANKIND, and are instead the monsters we need to most be concerned about.
I hope that explains the bare minimum about Zionism, Israel [both ancient and recent] and the Jewish peoples outlook and motives behind this war in Iran. IF not then I did try my best ok!
NOTE: I don't like the religious Israeli's use of the TALMUD oral histories that I personally find totally abhorrent and utterly disgusting for reasons that I will not get into in this thread.
IF one wishes to discuss those things with me then pls access this thread of mine ...
Putting The Puzzle Together. The Cyclic Circle OF Satanic Strife!
Well done to Ninurta for not falling for my trap about the use of nooks in this war, as they have seen through the ploy and been able to carefully dissect it and make very highly well thought out logical rational empathic and compassionate reasons against the use of nooks. Congratulations, You have earned mucho respect from me!
