(Yesterday, 02:58 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I have lived seven decades now and I seem to be invisible to most younger people except those that are advanced in age as I...out there in the 'real'(?) world
I definitely don't try or want to be disliked but as they say 'you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time', so I let the chips fall where they may and say 'it is what it is' when it comes to strangers...out there.
Yes, we are mostly strangers here and will in all probability misunderstand each other or dislike certain perceived attitudes/ideologies, but I like that you are nipping the beginnings of what looks to be sniping in the bud. Don't hold back. Don't let RN devolve into a mudpit, please.
As for the 'overlords' attitude, I disagree that it has anything to do with responsibility. I believe it has everything to do with the people losing power and control to government's will. I remember from the old days when the government introduced a new tax, 'only temporary' they said and it never left us to this day. No power, no control, no say...so what does it matter which overlords take over (elitist, LLM robots, aliens) if we are numb and compliant sheeple who just let them roll their will over us?
So it's not just my well being, it's everyone's well being here that matters, so all I'm saying is let's try to be kind and for some people here please think before you post.
Over and out.
I just happen to believe there is a vast difference between having the mental horsepower to stand and defend one's ideas in the Public Square with some degree of decorum and respect, and just yelling at one another to move the air around, sniping at the person from the shadows because one is utterly unable to counter the Idea they are promoting.
If we cannot counter someone's IDEAS without personally attacking them, then we must consider that our own opposition ideas just may be in the wrong - if we have no logical counter and simply resort to character assassination, then we have to fall back and re-evaluate the veracity of OUR OWN ideas for merit.
Nothing "turns me off" quicker than seeing a debater resort to personal attacks against their debate opponent. That event signals to me that they are floundering, and unable to come up with a cogent thought to counter their opponent's ideas with a logical thought of their own.
Regarding "Overlords", I'm a hillbilly. We have a long history of bitching and whining about our overlords, fighting them tooth and nail when we must, and otherwise totally ignoring their overlordship, and doing as we please whether they like it or not. In other words, when push comes to shove, we invalidate their overlordshiip by simply ignoring their rules and continuing on with our own until we are either dead or free of them.
You will likely soon see those attitudes play out in real time in western Virginia. We will bitch and whine about the communist overlords that have taken root in Richmond - as you see me doing frequently in the shoutbox - and we will otherwise simply ignore the Edicts from on High and go on with life as usual... and, in the interim, we will keep our powder dry in the off-chance that they will develop the gumption to actually physically move against us.
We all exert actual control over our own environments, but only to a certain extent - generally to the extent of what our arms can reach. Within that reach, we can claim control. Beyond it is always a contested area.
"well it's all right now
I've learned my lesson well
You see you can't please everyone
So you've got to please yourself."
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“Trouble rather the tiger in his lair than the sage among his books. For to you kingdoms and their armies are things mighty and enduring, but to him they are but toys of the moment, to be overturned with the flick of a finger.”
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake