How many more would have died ?

[Ninurta]

The guns used in the shooting were a Glock 29 (10MM) that was used to shoot others until the bullets ran out then a Sig Sauer P226 (.357) was used to unalive themself.

Authorities searched shooter's storage and found a sawed off shotgun and an AR



Crazy people everywhere.

Good job on finding the weapon models while the rest of us were just punching around in the dark!

If those are the actual firearms the cops found in the storage in that photo, that AR looks like a Smith and Wesson M+P-15 (the official trunk gun of, among others, the West Virginia State Police), and the shotgun looks to me like a Mossberg, but I'm less sure of that. I'm pretty certain on the AR, though. It looks just like the one I bought, right down to the odd shaped trigger guard and heavy barrel, when it was in stock configuration before I customized it.

.As an aside, the guns photographed for the Diddy trial included 3 M+P-15's, but I think they had all been customized already. Cheap (as in "inexpensive", not poorly built) AR's. Mine sold for 500 bucks new-in-the-box after the dealer knocked off 100 dollars. That was in 2017. It came with 1 (one) Pmag Gen M2 30 round standard capacity magazine, which I immediately replaced with magazines I felt were more reliable. The Gen M2 Pmags had a nasty habit of dumping all their rounds if dropped on the base plate (that was fixed in the Gen M3 Pmags), and was all plastic, including the feed lips, which I didn't fancy using if the gun started running hot. That deficiency has not, to date, been fixed, so I replaced it with a Lancer polymer magazine, which has steel feed lips.

If the killer ran his Glock dry, then the guy who initially tackled him mangled his hand for no good reason buy trapping his hand in the mechanism of an empty pistol. However, whether he was trained or not, that IS how they trained us to disarm an opponent with an auto-pistol... by trapping the web of your hand between the hammer and the slide and jamming the works. I don't think any Glocks have hammers, though, so I'm not sure what part of the mechanism he jammed up with his hand. Most Glocks are striker-fired, which is one of the main things I have against ever using one.

ETA: I looked up the Glock 29 specifically, and it IS a striker fired gun. They're tiny little things (i.e. "sub compact") with a 3.78" barrel and what looks like about half of the grip of a real pistol. Apparently made for concealment, it's standard capacity is 10+1.  

ETA2: Thinking about it, it's possible that getting a bit of your hand inside the ejection port, and trapping it between the back of the ejection port on the slide and the chamber face at the rear of the barrel might work to jam up a Glock, as it would prevent the gun from going into full battery, which might be a necessity for a Glock to fire. I dunno enough about Glocks because I'll never use one, and so I reserve the brain cells to store other, more pertinent to me, information... just spit-balling.

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