(11-18-2025, 07:37 PM)MrJesterium Wrote:(11-18-2025, 10:56 AM)Ninurta Wrote: So, I would neither cower in fear nor rejoice in promotion of the end. What the Antichrist does ain't none of my business - I don't belong to him, and I don't think any Child of God would belong to that Antichrist - that would be just a pull in opposite directions that would pull a man apart, no?I must disagree. We each have individual responsibility for this mess, allowing prevailing conditions to thrive is ennabling vice. We have no one else to blame but ourselves. The evil we put out into this world, every negative emotion, thought, and deed contributes to making it worse for all. How did Hitler come to power? It was because people sacrificed the higher considerations for the practical/lower, they put themselves first before others, so they worshiped false values (power, glory, honor, wealth) instead of doing everything they could to transform society, they turned indifferent, were reduced to an utter state of carelessness.
It's not surprising that you would disagree. There are a number of things we disagree on, and there are also a number of things we are in complete agreement upon. That's one of the things that makes the world go 'round. If we were in complete agreement upon everything, then one of us would be completely unnecessary and superfluous. As it stands, in the points we disagree on, I'd say we both have at least something to add to the discussion, and that's what makes life worth living.
In matters of the Antichrist, you are correct about me - I care nothing at all about the Antichrist. I am entirely indifferent, and utterly careless about his existence or non-existence. I do not care about what he may do to Society, because he cannot do anything to it without it's permission - if it gives that permission, it gets what it gets. If Society wants to give him that power over them, then they can live with the results of their own actions.
I withdrew from Society quite some time ago, I saw the cliff it was intent on driving itself off of, and wanted no part of it. Oh, I still offer my opinions on what it does to itself, but those are offered primarily as a disinterested observer, rather than as a frantic member.
The values you mention (power, glory, honor, wealth), are societal values, not mine. They are the very tools Society uses to deconstruct itself and leave itself vulnerable to manipulation by ne'er -do-wells like an Antichrist. My withdrawal from Society was not because I worshiped those values, but rather because I rejected them and Society clung to them for dear death. That necessitated a parting of the ways.
Society is no longer mine to transform. I've checked out of it. I can't say that I care what an Antichrist can or may do to it, because it invites that destruction upon itself. I'm just along for the ride, and to observe from the sidelines. If society had any interest in saving itself, it would reflect inwardly and deeply, and reassess the values it continues to hold dear. Just as one cannot help an addict until he desires transformation himself, so also no one will save society from an Antichrist or any other malady until it first chooses to transform itself and eschews it's love of the destructive values it holds dear. - the power, glory, honor, wealth, fame etc that it continues to maintain it's addiction to.
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“Trouble rather the tiger in his lair than the sage among his books. For to you kingdoms and their armies are things mighty and enduring, but to him they are but toys of the moment, to be overturned with the flick of a finger.”
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake