I don't understand the DI ban thing. Do they somehow think their members are married to them or something? Is it a jealousy thing, like a jealous husband beating his wife for taking too long at the grocery store? "Hey you - yer married to US! No steppin' out!"
I just ain't comprehending the logic of the move, if there is any. Maybe if their T+C's gave the reasons for it, it might be clearer, but as it stands, no, it is NOT "self-explanatory"... so they ought to explain themselves. I think they got some 'splainin' to do!
I've got a membership over there, and just considered it a reciprocal thing for a sister site, but never visited much. Now I don't suppose I'll ever visit again, lest they beat me in the Public Square with a rod no thicker than their thumb on a Sunday afternoon.
Some stuff is just antiquated and nonsensical. I'm at a loss to understand why "conspiracy" sites can't seem to work together for the greater good rather than trying to cut each other's throats, which, in this case, seems to be more cutting the member's throats than the other site's, which I gather is us.
In a sense, they seem to be cutting their own throat with this move - it's their loss, and our gain,a case of cutting their nose off to spite their face.
In a way, it reminds of me Afghan Warlords or some of the Native American tribes during colonization - too fearful and mistrustful of one another, and spending more time fighting amongst themselves than they spent fighting their common enemies. Where did that get the Indians? And is Afghanistan someplace you'd like to spend your next vacation?
I don't view our respective sites as "competitors", and they certainly didn't seem to when ATS was on the ropes and they were coming here in droves and finding a soft place to land in the confusion, a safe haven to gather and regroup.
Oh well. I'm not going to change or compromise my principles just because they have, so no ban-hammers coming down here for folks with dual citizenships. I had considered it, but decided that was a step farther than i was willing to go. I decided not to compromise my own principles, and to stay true to myself. After all, I'm the guy I have to look at in the mirror at the end of the day when I'm not shaving. I have to look in that mirror and see me, not some stranger. That would just be even more horrifying.
At RN, banning will remain just a remedy for spammers and disruptive influences who disturb our peace and tranquility. Come see us when you want, have a night out with the boys when you want. We're not insecurely jealous like that. Almost everyone here is here because they were banned from somewhere else, yet we all seem to get along just fine for the most part... so, it REALLY wasn't us, it was them.
So. let them do as they will, and we will still do as WE will. When all is said and done, we will see who takes more damage from following their own very different principles. I mean seriously - where did that sort of jealousy and ban-happiness get ATS in the end? Where are they now, and where is all the collective wisdom of the ages they had stored there?
ETA: The line TSK posted that really stuck in my craw was this:
It might shock and surprise him to know how many of his "high ranking" members still maintain an account here. Not a single one has contacted me with a request to delete their account here. I'm not sure, and ain't gonna search to find out, but I believe that is a mirror he may want to look into himself. There is a name for that, when you punish someone else for doing the same things you do, but that word escapes me at the moment.... but I do know that it's not a label I'd care to have applied to myself.
A final thought - when you offer a quality service, you need not fear your membership permanently leaving you for another site. Something for jealous site owners to ponder.
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I just ain't comprehending the logic of the move, if there is any. Maybe if their T+C's gave the reasons for it, it might be clearer, but as it stands, no, it is NOT "self-explanatory"... so they ought to explain themselves. I think they got some 'splainin' to do!
I've got a membership over there, and just considered it a reciprocal thing for a sister site, but never visited much. Now I don't suppose I'll ever visit again, lest they beat me in the Public Square with a rod no thicker than their thumb on a Sunday afternoon.
Some stuff is just antiquated and nonsensical. I'm at a loss to understand why "conspiracy" sites can't seem to work together for the greater good rather than trying to cut each other's throats, which, in this case, seems to be more cutting the member's throats than the other site's, which I gather is us.
In a sense, they seem to be cutting their own throat with this move - it's their loss, and our gain,a case of cutting their nose off to spite their face.
In a way, it reminds of me Afghan Warlords or some of the Native American tribes during colonization - too fearful and mistrustful of one another, and spending more time fighting amongst themselves than they spent fighting their common enemies. Where did that get the Indians? And is Afghanistan someplace you'd like to spend your next vacation?
I don't view our respective sites as "competitors", and they certainly didn't seem to when ATS was on the ropes and they were coming here in droves and finding a soft place to land in the confusion, a safe haven to gather and regroup.
Oh well. I'm not going to change or compromise my principles just because they have, so no ban-hammers coming down here for folks with dual citizenships. I had considered it, but decided that was a step farther than i was willing to go. I decided not to compromise my own principles, and to stay true to myself. After all, I'm the guy I have to look at in the mirror at the end of the day when I'm not shaving. I have to look in that mirror and see me, not some stranger. That would just be even more horrifying.
At RN, banning will remain just a remedy for spammers and disruptive influences who disturb our peace and tranquility. Come see us when you want, have a night out with the boys when you want. We're not insecurely jealous like that. Almost everyone here is here because they were banned from somewhere else, yet we all seem to get along just fine for the most part... so, it REALLY wasn't us, it was them.
So. let them do as they will, and we will still do as WE will. When all is said and done, we will see who takes more damage from following their own very different principles. I mean seriously - where did that sort of jealousy and ban-happiness get ATS in the end? Where are they now, and where is all the collective wisdom of the ages they had stored there?
ETA: The line TSK posted that really stuck in my craw was this:
Quote:There's no trusting a person after an offense like that.
It might shock and surprise him to know how many of his "high ranking" members still maintain an account here. Not a single one has contacted me with a request to delete their account here. I'm not sure, and ain't gonna search to find out, but I believe that is a mirror he may want to look into himself. There is a name for that, when you punish someone else for doing the same things you do, but that word escapes me at the moment.... but I do know that it's not a label I'd care to have applied to myself.
A final thought - when you offer a quality service, you need not fear your membership permanently leaving you for another site. Something for jealous site owners to ponder.
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“Trouble rather the tiger in his lair than the sage among his books. For to you kingdoms and their armies are things mighty and enduring, but to him they are but toys of the moment, to be overturned with the flick of a finger.”
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake
― Gordon R. Dickson, Tactics of Mistake