Spent quite a bit of time reading all the stuff they know about our Universe. That was years ago, maybe twelve to eighteen years ago. I came to these conclusions.
First, from the point of space we are in, it would be impossible to determine how the universe was created. and to determine what is happening.
That does not mean people will believe in a theory, it just means that there are a real lot of possibilities, and it is not really important that we know anyway. So let them believe in their beliefs and theories, as long as they do not try to shove their beliefs down everyone's throat, it doesn't really matter.
I do think there is something to the electric universe theory...but again, it is impossible to determine that is how it works. But it could explain some of the things that are relevant to what is happening.
Second, it would be better to focus our attention on making sure we do not destroy our ecosystem with chemicals that are not natural chemistries that we are creating by science then to focus on the stars. I would swear some of those scientists making these theories of the universe are high on something. I am not someone who is convinced CO2 is causing carbon change, if they did not poison the microbes and poison the plants that tie up carbon the problem would not be so bad. They have not been evaluating the pesticides and other agricultural chemicals well enough, people do not want to go out in the field and squash bugs on plants between their fingers anymore to make a living, so they spray the crap out of the crops.
Third, since the structure of an atom is so much free space and the solids and molecules are mostly free space, why can't we presume that the universe we are in is a big leaf or something, it would explain the flatness, because the energy barrier at the edge of the universe coupled to the gravity of the leaf would itself would not let us see out the sides of the leaf or whatever it is. It could be growing bigger and our vision of time is relevant to how we define it, time does not have to be a constant as we believe. The shape of things in our universe somewhat match shapes of things at microscopic levels on this planet...Is this thing I made up real? Who the hell knows, and who cares anyway, none of this really matters. People think of science as so great, yet we think little of the miracle of life on this planet that naturally formed, life we are disrupting and an biodome we are punching full of holes to go out of the atmosphere to do science research or just to make people think we need science.
I love science, I study it a lot. But half of the research contradicts the other half of the research, depending on who is funding or wanting the research to prove what they can profit off of. Translation of evidence is done mostly by belief, both in knowledge we hold at that point or by consensus of the time we live in. Again, if you read a lot of science, it starts to be you feel why are they making things so complex. It is better to be out in the garden growing some good pesticide and herbicide free food or working making things in society we really need, things that can last a lifetime if you take care of them....think about a cast iron frying pan, Why can't people be satisfied with something, why do they have to follow the fads and buy new things to replace the old that are mostly far inferior in lifespan. We have been conditioned to believe we need colorful and shiny things that we really don't need by those who profit by our belief in their conditioning. We are also conditioned to believe we need science to survive, that we cannot survive without vaccines even though our ancestors did survive without them because they had adequate immune systems. We are conditioned to believe that we need fancy expensive MRIs and CTs to verify we have a condition, when an ex-ray is really all we need at way less cost and way less risk of radiation from CTs and damage to some cells from the effect of MRIs on the iron in cells. Doctors used to fix you up with way less cost years ago. but those days are gone now around here....the Hospitals pay a lot of money for technology and need to use it to keep their doors open because everyone is starting to believe we need those special scans.
So although it is interesting to contemplate the universe, I would rather be like I was when I was when I was a kid, amazed with all the stars and patterns like the big dipper and other star patterns than getting all enthused about how the universe was formed. Boy, we have had lots of northern lights over the last decade or so, why have they increased so much, I spent a real lot of time outside when I was young, camping by lakes and living on the farm and I can say I never saw this much northern lights back then. More nice sunsets too, but those could be because of pollution I suppose.
So if you guys want to get interested in the universe, it is your choice, but remember, don't blindly believe that what the experts say is real, they are just theories and hypothesis's they are wrapped up in, but in reality it doesn't matter what they believe as long as it does not negatively effect you...so have at it, I enjoyed researching this before I determined that there is no way in hell we can figure out how the universe was formed from this point in space we are in.
First, from the point of space we are in, it would be impossible to determine how the universe was created. and to determine what is happening.
That does not mean people will believe in a theory, it just means that there are a real lot of possibilities, and it is not really important that we know anyway. So let them believe in their beliefs and theories, as long as they do not try to shove their beliefs down everyone's throat, it doesn't really matter.
I do think there is something to the electric universe theory...but again, it is impossible to determine that is how it works. But it could explain some of the things that are relevant to what is happening.
Second, it would be better to focus our attention on making sure we do not destroy our ecosystem with chemicals that are not natural chemistries that we are creating by science then to focus on the stars. I would swear some of those scientists making these theories of the universe are high on something. I am not someone who is convinced CO2 is causing carbon change, if they did not poison the microbes and poison the plants that tie up carbon the problem would not be so bad. They have not been evaluating the pesticides and other agricultural chemicals well enough, people do not want to go out in the field and squash bugs on plants between their fingers anymore to make a living, so they spray the crap out of the crops.
Third, since the structure of an atom is so much free space and the solids and molecules are mostly free space, why can't we presume that the universe we are in is a big leaf or something, it would explain the flatness, because the energy barrier at the edge of the universe coupled to the gravity of the leaf would itself would not let us see out the sides of the leaf or whatever it is. It could be growing bigger and our vision of time is relevant to how we define it, time does not have to be a constant as we believe. The shape of things in our universe somewhat match shapes of things at microscopic levels on this planet...Is this thing I made up real? Who the hell knows, and who cares anyway, none of this really matters. People think of science as so great, yet we think little of the miracle of life on this planet that naturally formed, life we are disrupting and an biodome we are punching full of holes to go out of the atmosphere to do science research or just to make people think we need science.
I love science, I study it a lot. But half of the research contradicts the other half of the research, depending on who is funding or wanting the research to prove what they can profit off of. Translation of evidence is done mostly by belief, both in knowledge we hold at that point or by consensus of the time we live in. Again, if you read a lot of science, it starts to be you feel why are they making things so complex. It is better to be out in the garden growing some good pesticide and herbicide free food or working making things in society we really need, things that can last a lifetime if you take care of them....think about a cast iron frying pan, Why can't people be satisfied with something, why do they have to follow the fads and buy new things to replace the old that are mostly far inferior in lifespan. We have been conditioned to believe we need colorful and shiny things that we really don't need by those who profit by our belief in their conditioning. We are also conditioned to believe we need science to survive, that we cannot survive without vaccines even though our ancestors did survive without them because they had adequate immune systems. We are conditioned to believe that we need fancy expensive MRIs and CTs to verify we have a condition, when an ex-ray is really all we need at way less cost and way less risk of radiation from CTs and damage to some cells from the effect of MRIs on the iron in cells. Doctors used to fix you up with way less cost years ago. but those days are gone now around here....the Hospitals pay a lot of money for technology and need to use it to keep their doors open because everyone is starting to believe we need those special scans.
So although it is interesting to contemplate the universe, I would rather be like I was when I was when I was a kid, amazed with all the stars and patterns like the big dipper and other star patterns than getting all enthused about how the universe was formed. Boy, we have had lots of northern lights over the last decade or so, why have they increased so much, I spent a real lot of time outside when I was young, camping by lakes and living on the farm and I can say I never saw this much northern lights back then. More nice sunsets too, but those could be because of pollution I suppose.
So if you guys want to get interested in the universe, it is your choice, but remember, don't blindly believe that what the experts say is real, they are just theories and hypothesis's they are wrapped up in, but in reality it doesn't matter what they believe as long as it does not negatively effect you...so have at it, I enjoyed researching this before I determined that there is no way in hell we can figure out how the universe was formed from this point in space we are in.