Heaven VS Hell! Where does that leave us?

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I just want to add that people have invested so much in their beliefs and hold them so tightly that their reaction is they ignore, deny, or argue from every angle possible to either prove this idea wrong or convince you that their perspective is the correct one. This idea I have been putting forth is so universally opposed, that this seems to get to the core of something that disturbs almost everyone. That disturbance is worth studying for my purposes and this subject works quite well. It would be even better if I find similarly disturbing ideas that can be woven into this one.

This resistance, this refusal to give such an idea any consideration, the anger and other emotions that are involved, are very important aspects of what I am striving for.

I'll indulge the thought. It doesn't bother me that you (or anyone) are searching deep for an answer. 

I do, sort of believe that we are in a hell, or prison, if you will.
A temporary prison where we are locked up with evil. So that we may learn good and evil.


I've wondered if we are post rapture and post mark of the beast somehow.

I've also wondered if we were actually in "hell." But, then I started to see the good in the world and realized hell couldn't provide us with any of the goodness that's in the world.

I changed my perspective and attitude towards life and this existence, and that helped move me past my anger, and I was able to see the Light again. 


The truth of it all has been so well hidden from us. I asked some questions a few years ago that lead me to examine black magic from an academic standpoint. I've seen what true satanic worship looks like, and what a real witch acts like, and what is in these people's hearts. All you'd have to do is sit with any of these people with true evil in their hearts, and truly evil ways of controlling spirits and performing black magic and you will realize very quickly that, no, none of that comes from any "good" source.

If there was any merit to the question then these Satanist would be "good people" and doing good things.

They're not, from any view I could see.

Sadly, a lot of "Christians" do wicked and evil things under the name of Jesus.

This too is wicked.

Truth be told, it is hard to tell the difference in people. 

We'd have to see a scenario where Satan was actually trying to help us, and how. How would the devil be trying to help us? If he's got Angelic powers, why wouldn't he be performing miracles to actually lead us to a truth? 

I will go down the road of thought with you, but I need some way of seeing what you're seeing. 


This is an experience to learn good and evil. We see both here in this existence. If we cannot learn to see the good in life, and all we see is the bad then this existence does seem like hell. But, when we start to see the good in this world, and this life, then we can see the "Flicker of lights" that are in the world that illuminate our paths and show us that God is good.


I made a suggestion, and it is a dangerous one. But, you could always experiment, and go actually be around some people who worship Satan, or people who perform black magic. It won't take long to see how evil it all actually is. If you decide that is where your "savior" is then let us know what you find.

I've come to understand that if my heart is full of darkness then the darkness is all I see. 

If my heart is full of light and goodness then that is all I see.

My heart is filled with both light and darkness, and so I see both.

I choose whatever is in that "Light." I have seen the difference in love and hate, and I choose love.

I don't think this scares everyone. I think there are a lot of people who may be concerned about your pattern of thought here. If they can't accept that this is a sort of prison and a test to see what we choose when presented with good and evil then they have missed the point of all of this.

Just remember that the Antichrist is a part of the prophecies, and a lot of people believe Satan will be coming on the scene and he will make people feel exactly like what you are claiming here; that he is our savior and it is he who will "save the world."

It is prophetic that this will fool many people into thinking what you're thinking here.

As I'm sure you're aware, this is an old question. This guy has many videos asking this same thing and this dude gives a good argument to the question. If you haven't seen his videos yet check him out. He is saying the devil is the one trying to save us from God.