A discussion on Love

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Just so you understand where I'm coming from here, I'm a Calvinist. All 5 TULIP points. The two that apply here are I - "Iirresistible Grace", and P - "Perseverance of the Saints".

So, if that young fella is destined for Salvation, he won't break into my house while I'm home. He'll either break into someone else's house, or just pass out drunk and skip it for that night. He will be "persevered" until such time as he's ready to accept the Grace he's destined for.

And that Grace WILL come to him, if he's meant for it. He can run, he can hide, but he cannot avoid it forever. God will eventually get him if he's one of God's People. God's will cannot be thwarted forever. We as mortals are emphatically NOT more powerful than God. We cannot stymie his plan.

So, If I CAN kill him, then he was never meant to be Saved. If I CAN kill him, then his portion was always meant to be Perdition.

Taking a life is traumatic. I've been traumatized killing animals to eat, much less humans, but I didn't allow that to let me starve to death. Neither will I allow it to get in the way of defending my family - "A man who will not take care of his own family is worse than an Unbeliever". Some times I reckon, you have to choose between the love for your own people, and the love for the strangers who attack them. In my case, I know which love wins out.

If that makes me "evil" in the eyes of some, then so be it. That's something I'll have to live with, not them.

If I'm wrong in that, then, like Samson who brought down the temple on the heads of guilty and innocent alike, I will have to take that up in due course of time with God. Until that time comes, folks who think they can attack mine with impunity should probably re-think that.

It will be less traumatic for the both of us.

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Then, whats the point in the gun in the first place?

This ideology makes you an arm of God? Sounds militant to me. If you're protected by God, you don't need a gun. Like you said, you'll never even be bothered with it.

I realize, as I've been sitting here praying and meditating on this, I realized I need to make a serious disclaimer. 

The eldery have a right to protect themselves. I don't see this as an eternal sin.

This is more of a philosophical catch 22 moral question about love and the scenario where you are being robbed and take a life.
People have a right to protect themselves. 

I do realize how vulnerable that makes people. My thoughts were along the same lines as Ninurtas with the right to protect. This day and age to be unarmed or without protection is dangerous. 

Myself personally, I guess am not attached to my stuff like that. Seems contradictory to the way I'm seeing love through the eyes of Christ, which is love. Plus it's not a fear enough to have firearms. I believe in people's right to have them. And the right not to. 

I've always seen this as a moral dilemma when it came to things over life. Evil people kill to preserve possessions. 

Love in general isn't supposed to be that.

That's why the moral dilemma, especially in Christianity. 

If I was a young man, and had a family to protect, I would (and did) feel differently about this. Now that I'm older, single, content and even at peace I still wouldn't disrupt life by ending someone's over my stuff. I guess the kingdom of heaven sounds way more appealing, and not worth risking someone else missing out on.

I think a lot of people have called themselves this or that for a very long time, and with that have given themselves permission to do whatever they seem fit.

There's a saying in evil.
To the pure all things are pure.

Very, very wicked people use this to do a lot of evil. 

I reexamine everything, especially when it becomes rhetoric enough to hear people gloating over this. It doesn't have the appearance of mercy, in the least.

People seem to be talking about that a lot, actually. That's ultimately why I asked the question. 

Maybe it's the fear mongering that has everyone so up in arms, so to speak.

I'm gonna go without arms, just to see what happens now. Lol

Fear is something I'm currently learning to let go of completely. 
That, and listening to people who don't have a clue, but are so damn sure they do. 

Which is a whole Lotta people. 

I have always wondered how I'd actually handle that first scenario. When I think, yeah I'd shoot to protect myself, I start to think of the repercussions that has.

To me, it doesn't matter if it's a child of God or not. Life is still life and created by God, and we should value others and their lives as much as our own.

So when I think about these conversations, and I run it through my faith, I see a moral dilemma. And yes, most certainly from the way I view the scriptures, as well as my Walk.


Added:
I just reread that last post. You sound like you are literally the all mighty judgement and right hand of God.
Sir, I've studied cults.

That was very close to their rhetoric.

Js