(08-16-2024, 08:45 PM)Ninurta Wrote:That's really interesting.(08-16-2024, 08:08 PM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: I have looked at all of this through the eyes of different cultures. I see the scattered wisdom of the mysteries of God spread out through us all. I tried not to look at any of it from a purely western vantage point. History of the west showed me not to trust what I've been taught here. I looked beyond those borders of religion and geography. I believe God's wisdom is spread out evenly through us all. Mash it together and I think we hit the truth.
It's funny you should mention that. Recently, in a private communication (one sparked by this very thread, as a matter of fact), I mentioned that I've made a study of "Near Death Experiences" or "NDEs" in order to tease out any information they might contain. I noticed that in many of them, though not all - as well as many more "visions" folks have had without the benefit of dying to get them - a "figure" appears to them on "the other side", or wherever it is they travel to.
That figure seems to be the same person in all cases, but it never identifies itself, seemingly preferring to just let the individual assume it's identity. Christians tend to identify it as "Jesus", where Muslims tend to identify it as "Mohammed" or more usually "the Imam" or some other such like figure from Islam... Hindus tend to identify it as "Vishnu" or "Krishna", Buddhists as "the Buddha" and nonaligned "New Agers" as "a spirit guide". I don't know what Jews would identify it as, although if we take the vision at Gethsemane into account as an example of it, then perhaps they would identify it as "Elijah" or "Moses"... but in all cases it seems to be the same figure, but identified by the individual experiencing it in the way most comfortable and identifiable to themselves.
And so far, in any legitimate NDE, it has never identified itself, but rather allowed the individual to identify it in the way most comfortable to themselves.
Now, whether these NDEs and visions are real, concrete experiences or just the imaginings of a dying or troubled mind is up for grabs. I reckon it's just another of those things that has to be "taken on faith". In any event, there seems to be quite a lot of correlating and similar experiences in them reported across all faiths, of which this figure appearing is just one more commonality.
So, you may be on to something there.
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God himself says he has many names. Every text or scroll over studied it said throughout that the Lord has many names. The book of revelation, when "jesus" is riding on that horse it says he has many names, one of which no one knows. Even in the lesser key of Solomon it's states that God has several names. One of which no one can say with guidance from the Spirit (I believe he is actually referring to the Holy Spirit). No matter where I've looked I see different names. Enoch refers to God the Father as "The Lord of the spirits." He is referred to in many different ways. So, I can see Him having different "inages." I can see it being a familiar form, designed to each individual. That all makes perfect sense, and aligns with every text I've ever seen.
I've had two visions. One in a dream and one fully awake. I couldn't see who was in that Light. I just felt the presence of the Lord, in what "felt like" the Jesus I know. I've witnessed the devil trick me into believing he was God. I've seen how that works.
The Bible does state that we will all stand before the Lord. I imagine He will be the first person we all see. I some shape or form.
I am coming to the conclusion that our spirits are created before our journey through this life. The coup in heaven happened and so every spirit needs to be tested, and refined. Time and pressure. If our brains store our consciousness, then when our spirit detaches from our bodies then all of those memories would cease to exist. The brain dies, and so would the memories. I would think, anyways.
If this is so, then the spirit would have to retain some memory. We would have to carry those memories with us in some way. If we face judgement then we would definitely need the memories to go with us into the next life.
I think in reincarnation those memories are wiped from our former lives. Unless we dig deep enough and stumble across the weird, like I always seem to do.
The planes looked something like this.
There are American bombers, I believe. In the vision it was never clear what army I was in.
They live.
We sleep.
We sleep.