Old souls

[FlickerOfLight]

I'm going to throw this into this mix. Great conversation. 

For those who look at everything through the Biblical standpoint. 

I believe the 144,000 are going to be reincarnated souls. Sent in the "last days" as part of God's "army." 


Did anyone catch that John thr Baptist was Elijah reincarnated? Jesus himself states this. And remember, John the Baptist was Jesus' cousin.

Reincarnation is literally mentioned in the Bible.
As they went away, Jesus began to speak to the crowds concerning John: “What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken by the wind? What then did you go out to see? A man dressed in soft clothing? Behold, those who wear soft clothing are in kings’ houses. What then did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. This is he of whom it is written,
“‘Behold, I send my messenger before your face,
who will prepare your way before you.’
For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John, and if you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come. He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

This shows John the Baptist was Elijah reincarnated. And John seemed to be completely unaware of it. 
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7 lives would be cool. If so, I think I'm on my last one. 

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So if reincarnation is a thing, where did all those extra souls suddenly come from?

I think it's possible they volunteered to come here from other planets. (Howard Menger)

As a matter of fact, the human population was steadily rising up until the 17th-18th century, after which it experienced an explosive boom. Nature does not make great jumps. (Leibniz) This implies outside interference, emergency measures have been taken by higher powers. It's no coincidence that in the 18th century, there were those heroes throughout Europe who clamored for emancipation from the Church. So it wasn't merely artificial conditions, the lack of birth control, which gave rise to the overpopulation crisis.

An user raised some excellent questions about why the world seems to have come to a halt in regards to AI and Mars exploration. WanderingMrM shared an answer with me: TPTB "are scared to announce the truth, that the age of the universe does not match the time frame required for evolution and development of life based on the scientific time frame and scale/speed at which evolution takes to reach the stage man is at now."

But folks say weird, unfathomable stuff like that to me fairly often. They just come in from nowhere, drop some crazy lines on me, they sky back out into the nowhere they came from. And I never know what the hell they are talking about.

Here's a probable explanation:

A wise lady wrote, "Many of the people who seem to just flow through life have deep inner lives that you cannot see. I have been pleasantly surprised by people that I perceived as superficial dropping the most profound wisdom on me out of nowhere."

But it's also possible that you've encountered angels in human guise, ghosts, or clairvoyants conveying a message they felt prompted to deliver. I collected many of these stories, I noticed the most reoccurring theme was about them looking people in the eye.

Yes. Mostly the homeless, old people, kids, and occasionally women who have managed to get themselves into dangerous situations.

Well, I'll be damned!

Gordon Scallion claimed after awakening his gift and helping out two guys, "People would just arrive at my door. Sometimes it was medical issues and other times it was more to do with personal relationships." He assumed the doctor he had helped sent them his way.

Judy Hevenly's site bio mentions a strange meeting: "Back in London on a rainy night as Judy was walking home from work, a woman suddenly approached her from nowhere. She grabbed her hand and looking in her eyes said ‘you will help many people with your gift.’ Then the lady mysteriously disappeared." After she had an alleged vision of Jesus, she had an inner realization, "after which people out of nowhere sought her help".

An Austrian clairvoyant I interviewed told me,

"I was walking on the street all of a sudden a woman stops by me and stares at me with those weird eyes. She was like 70 years old or so. She spoke broken german - I think she might have been from eastern europe. She stares at me and just says she saw my shiny aura - I should take care of myself because I have something very important to do. Then she went on."

Later, he had a similar realization and "from that day on things in life changed drastically. All of a sudden a lot of positive things started to happened. I walk down to the washing room but realized I don't have any coins for the washer, an old lady comes in and ask if I need 2 euros to start it up. Random people on the street ask me for help, not the usual suspects who want some money from you. And I help, without any motives, just happy to be of any help."

In a removed story, I read about how an user was told by a teen boy that he didn't like hanging around her because her aura was very dark and clouded. "Now, as an adult, I get all sorts of strange people asking me for help, and I've been told my aura is a sky blue with bits of indigo."

Life gets weird some times. Just roll with it... and if you ever find out what an "old soul" is, let me know - it'll clear up one more of life's little mysteries for me!

Basically, all children are old souls who have had the experience of countless lifetimes behind them. It's just that they do not receive opportunities for rousing their latent knowledge or lack a stimulus to activity. Goethe was unable to remember his past life until he had visited Italy and observed Roman replicas of the Greek statues, he reproduce them from memory.
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They are here to develop their talents, find their place in life, and to serve life - development - their fellow man, their community (in the widest sense). Many people have told me how they felt like it was a duty, an obligation.

"My life is better when I just listen and do instead of fighting it or disbelieving it. It’s hit me over the head too many times, saved me from terrible situations, made me unexpected money and been there when no one else is."

In an interview, Thomas Mesereau said, "I was one of those “lost souls” who spent considerable time wandering through the wilderness before finding my calling... During one illuminating moment, approximately twenty five years ago, I realized that civil rights and criminal defense were for me."

My American inventor friend wrote, "Imposter syndrome might mean you're in the wrong place, even if you are performing well. Why do I say this? I'm realizing that to some degree, I went down the wrong path... Had I listened to the little part of me that felt like an imposter, I would have discovered sooner that I was going down a path that wasn't what I actually wanted."
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It's a mistake for people to speak of "indigo children". People seem to have the misconception that being an "old soul" has to do with feeling older than they are, feeling heavier. Goethe was an old soul yet he behaved like a kid after meeting Ulrike von Levetzow.

On that note, an ex-military friend once told me, "I think that one of the most dangerous and destructive thoughts in our times is that any one person is “special” in any way. That thought is used to justify everything from grotesque greed to heinous acts of mass violence."

There is so much wisdom right here. You've covered everything beautifully, so I'm gonna let it stand as is. 

The claims made here are things I've learned through my experiences in life. I do not have this knowledge from books. I obtained ot through my walk.

Thanks, MrJesterium. You've added great insights into the conversation. 

As have you all. It's in viewing every angle that we can start to see things clearly. I just had to let go of all the lies I've been fed.

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In my experience, logic and reason are not what leads us to finding and walking into "The Kingdom of Heaven."

Lean not on your own understanding. 

Unless you become like a little child you will never see the Kingdom of heaven.

I dunno. Maybe.

I can say that logic and reason are what brought me to join a church, get baptized, and start studying the Bible all those many years ago. Logic and reason dictate that there has to be something beyond mere random chance, because random chance would not have produced the long string of impossible probabilities that, over several billion years and building one upon the next with the previous one being prerequisite to the development of the next step, led to me even existing.

After having read the religious texts of several religions, logic and reason are what have convinced me that the Bible is the most likely answer to life's questions. It's the only one I've found with any internal consistency at all. Now that is not to say that I am a Christian, because I'm not, despite what Grace may try to tell you. Most of the "Christians" I've been around are not the sort of people I would willingly associate with, and therefore I refuse to take on their name. Most of them, from what I've seen, tend to ignore the bible. Not altogether, mind you - they will pick and choose what they do and don't want to believe, and then make up fantastic rationales for it, while ignoring the rest of the Bible. I've no time for foolishment like that. It's either all or none.

They will read it "wrong", with an eye to "proving" their own pet doctrines. That's not how it works. When they "lean on their own understanding", they are actually just reading the parts they like, and ignoring the parts they don't, and perhaps purposefully misunderstanding the spirit in which any given passage was written. Doing that, they just can't see the cohesiveness of it... and THAT leads them to lead others astray, to place a "stumbling block in their path".

I.e they are not "rightly dividing the word of God". You can't get there from here when you are holding the map upside down.

Regarding "becoming like a little child", I've never grown up, so regression is difficult. Like I said above, I still don't know what I want to be when I grow up. Maybe it would be more precise to say I've never changed from childhood. My Dear Old Dad used to claim that even when I was tiny, I was just a really short adult - in his words, even when I was little, "there wasn't any bullshit about him". So, it may be that I never grew up, OR it may be that I never was a child. In the end, the two may be exactly the same thing.

Nowadays, all my hair and teeth are falling out, and in just a few short years, I'll likely be in diapers again... so there may actually BE a second childhood on the agenda!

If I manage to live long enough, that is...

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Faith is the exact opposite of logic and reason. We have to set our minds free to have "faith" that can say to a mountain "go into the sea," and it be done. 

Logic and reason would never heal the sick or cast out a demon, simply by saying a word.

Human understanding is logic and reason. Faith goes beyond what we know. It just depends on how much Faith a person puts into it. If you don't believe something like, say, speaking in tongues. If you don't "believe in ot" then it will never happen. If we don't believe we can lay hands on a person and heal then then we won't ever do it. 

Faith is the opposite of experience and knowledge. 

I put my faith into, "I don't know squat." Once I let go of my intelligence my eyes really started to open.

You're dad claiming that you were like an adult when you were a child is what some would call an "old soul." Wisdom beyond their years is one indicator. That wisdom had to come from somewhere. Wisdom comes from experience. A three year old who seems to have the wisdom of an old man is a soul who has had a lot of experience. I've seen thos wisdom myself in some children. This isn't intelligence in these kids. It's pure wisdom. I've heard small children who were wiser than any 78 year old I've ever known. How could this be possible without that soul having some experience within?

Our spirits are eternal. I think some of us choose to come back. Bodhisattva-Style.

All of this is a learning experience for me. I used to be set in my "beliefs." Then I realized, my "beliefs" were shackles of my mind. I actually went back and unlearned everything that was taught to me by man, and relearned everything I thought I knew. This is when those doors started opening for me. It was in the freeing of my mind from all the lies and bs I had been taught through this world. If this is the devil's world then everything I've been taught by it is a lie. I drudged through all of those lies like walking through the dark with only a FlickerOfLight to guide me every so often into the right direction. The light gets brighter and brighter the more I let go of all those boundaries thrown on me through the "church," this world and all my experiences.

If a person needed factual proof to "believe" in things like this, then that individual will never find anything beyond the black, white and red letters.

I know that you are one who is highly intelligent and experienced. I know you hold great earthly wisdoms from those experiences. To become like a little child would be to "let go" of all of that and look at God through those child eyes that, yes, are still within you. Go back and re-look at God's Word through those eyes, and you will see the Word of God come Alive.

I thank you for your view on this. I know that I seem to constantly go head to head with ya. Iron sharpens iron. I know where to sharpen. Tons of respect for ya. This is simply my view and I appreciate the discussion. You make me think, and every conversation with you sharpens me.

Cheers.