(07-03-2024, 06:50 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: I've been watching that site and there is all kinds of weirdness going on there now. Everything from the highly political content to all those new users who have taken over and are now controlling that narrative.
I did do a little experiment for this thread. I've been playing with a new tracker blocker, vpn, anti-hacker software. It basically shows me how many trackers and weird things it has going on with the site. My results were quite interesting.
First off, I tried rogue-nation.
Got nothing at all. Natta. Zip.
I jumped on ATS, and it was like watching fireworks go off with all kinds of blocks of trackers and other weird stuff that it just blocks for me.
Thennnnn I went to denyignorance.com....
My blocker went crazy and about crashed my phone.
Wow. That was wild.
Stay off those sites.
Either this site is actually "clean," or the designer of the site is a master of digital disguise.
I'd highly recommend staying off of denyignorance.com.
Js
ETA: at first I didn't think anything of it, but something kept nagging at me. I did some more experimenting.
Any site I go to my "things blocked" goes up. Some go up as low as 6 particular trackers, or adds or something suspicious, or as high as denyignorance.com which jumped up to 223 things blocked. But every site I got some reaction from.
Except this one.
Each time I come here and leave, natta. As if I hadn't even been on a site. But the 20 other places I just visited got something.
Weird...
I would say that a lot of that, although perhaps not all of it, is adware spyware trackers. We don't run ads, and are not beholden to Google for revenue. We are entirely member-supported. No ads means no adware spyware trackers here.
ATS has always been ad-supported. Lots of adware spyware trackers there. I don't know about Deny Ignorance, but suspect they probably run ads, too, and so will have the adware spyware trackers if they do, especially if their ad server is Google.
Ad serving companies have a real thing for tracking you across the internet. If they know where you go, what you read, then they can target you with specific ads. Consequently, they track your every move across the internet, and over time build a "profile" of you to target you more closely.
It's like bracketing a small knot of civilians with mortar fire, the last round of which obliterates them by being right on target.
Another site you might check your blockers on is Facebook. They do a lot of targeting and profile-building, too. Yet another one is YouTube.
Let me tell a little tale about recent interactions with YouTube. A couple of weeks ago, I was minding my own business, and just listening to music from the 60's and 70's on YouTube, on my computer. Within about 16 hours, my TV started serving me ads while streaming for Vevo's "70's channel" streaming service. That was on the "Pluto" streaming service, but probably spilled across all the rest of them once Pluto got my number and linked my TV to my "ad profile".
I got to wondering "how did they do that? Link my TV ownership to my computer ownership?" The ads were only on MY TV, here in my living room, not Grace's TV in the bed room. How could they tell the difference, seeing that both are at the same IP. How dod YouTube know which of us was watching what, and how did the streaming services discriminate between the two of us to only serve those ads to me?
Then it dawned upon me. My e-mail account. YouTube is owned by Google. If you sign in to Gmail, you are automatically signed in to YouTube as well. Both are linked to your Google account. Any Google service you sign into automatically signs you into all of the other Google services, across the board.
When I made my Pluto account, I used my real email address.
That's how they targeted me. They added my biological and cultural distinctiveness to their collective via my email address on different devices. Google is the Borg Collective. Now we are all Borg. We have been assimilated. Resistance is futile.
Have you wondered why, at damned near every site on the internet for the past couple of years, they all push the ability to "sign in with your Google or Facebook account"? That's why. Once you do that (which I have NEVER done!) you have been assimilated. Your biological, cultural, and technological distinctiveness has been added to the Collective.
You are then Borg.
When you "Sign in with Google or Facebook", it sets a "super cookie" on YOUR COMPUTER. Then they no longer have to rely on site-based trackers to track your every move. The super cookie itself logs every site you visit, every page on that site you read, and then "phones home" with the information to be added to your ad profile. Super cookies cannot be deleted via the normal cookie channels, and their size is not limited as is the size of normal cookies. You can "delete all cookies" from your browser cache, and NONE of the "super cookies" will be deleted or affected in the least. They have to be sought and destroyed individually and specifically.
Super cookies have no expiration date in addition to not being deleteable via normal channels. So they just sit there on YOUR COMPUTER, spying on you and phoning home, month after month, year after year, until they are hunted down and eradicated manually.
For technical reasons, I have only been able to run old, outdated browsers for the last little while. I've notice that has broken a lot of websites for me, but not others. Why is that? It's because the old outdated browsers I am running are unable to comply with the demands of the trackers inherently, not to mention the tracker and ad blockers I am running on them.
The site don't like that. They refuse to serve me the pages, instead putting up a block wall demanding that I update my browser. Why is that? It's because my browser is unable to comply with their recent trackers. That drives them nucking futs.
But RN has no ads. Therefore, we also have no adware spyware trackers. It's not that we've specially designed the site not to track, it's just that we haven't invited the adware spyware riffraff in...
... and THEY are the ones doing the tracking. What we have done is to specifically block third-party tracking adware from setting trackers either here or on your computer through RN, and we've done that through two separate mechanisms.
Why did YouTube recently serve me an ad (which I STRONGLY suspect was actually sponsored by ATF as a honeypot trap) for what amounts to an illegal firearms silencer? Why does Facebook constantly serve me ads for The Special Forces Association and The Ranger Association? It's because they are watching me through their trackers. They are building a profile on me. They are using that profile to target me specifically with what Google believes to be on-target ads.
We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Your biological and cultural distinctiveness will be added to our collective. Resistance is futile. We are the Borg.
RN has actually be structured somewhat specifically to BLOCK nosy trackers. You know how, when you first come to RN, you have to actually click on a "MyBB" link before you can get in? That's by design, and designed to thwart trackers and hackers. We did that when we set up RN because of an unpleasant experience with Romanian hackers at our previous site "Rogue-Nation3". They infiltrated and wrecked the site, then demanded a 5,000 dollar ransom to "fix" it, which is why we now have Rogue-Nation. RN3 is still there to be read, but we blocked write access to it, so no new posts can be made there.
ETA: CAVEAT - While RN does not allow trackers to be set, if your computer has already been infiltrated by trackers from other sites, especially if it has been infected by "super cookies", then your visits here, and what you read here, WILL be logged and phoned in to the trackers. It's not us doing it, it's the trackers previously set by other sites doing it. While we are "clean", if your machine is not, then it will report visits here and threads read to the trackers all the same, because of trackers set by those other sites visited which we are powerless to eradicate from your computer. Only you can do that, yourself, manually.
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