People killed and fried like an egg ??? there are 5 segments to the Brazil Senate hearing and this is the last segment. Turn on closed captions as there are a few interesting cases that were investigated.
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I'd like to start by
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clarifying that I provided incorrect
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information
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earlier regarding the live broadcast of
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our session on TV
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sonado the session has been Live on
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YouTube from the
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beginning but due to another session
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taking
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place in the human rights committee
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right now our session in the
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Senate will be rebro on TV sonado at 2
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p.m. I wanted to provide this
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information let's
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proceed now I would like to invite our
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next guest to take the stand wherever
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they
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prefer our next speaker is Mr Ronnie
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ver an electronic and computer engineer
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with specialization in Industrial
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Automation and
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Telecommunications
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he is currently pursuing a master's
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degree in physics at the Brazilian
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Center for physics
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research Mr ver is a career employee of
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Petra
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BRZ and a technical education professor
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in the state of Rio De
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Janeiro thank you very much for your
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participation feel free to make your
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presentation honorable Senator Eduardo
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guon distinguished authorities and the
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Brazilian people the cases I'm about to
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present are impressive not only because
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they reveal unexplained phenomena that
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are interested in our indigenous and
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Riverside people in the Amazon but also
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because these incidents have been
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thoroughly investigated by the Brazilian
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government and the documents are
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available through the access to
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Information Act and the National
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Archives some of these cases are
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sensitive as they involve permanent
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squali ey and deaths of individuals
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however simply closing our eyes and
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ignoring these facts will not help us
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understand the origin of this problem
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let's reflect when we as researchers
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take a helicopter and land in the Amazon
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rainforest tranquilize a Jaguar fit it
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with a GPS perform invasive procedures
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on it to study and preserve its species
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is it aggression and if this Jaguar dies
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due to a natural reaction of its
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organism to the tranquilizer dart that
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was ad ministered to the animal is it
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murder from the animals perspective
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probably yes but from the researchers
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perspective they were only trying to
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protect that species to allow us to
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interpret these questions we need to
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advance science towards the frontier of
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the unknown and understand the origin
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and intentions of these phenomena could
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you please show the slides the documents
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we will discuss are official documents
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about cases in Marino parah and also AA
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from both the Brazilian Air Force and
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the federal police fi national Indian
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foundation and the public prosecutor's
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office the first case we will discuss is
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from April 29th
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1977 which occurred on Crab Island on a
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boat people were removing wood from an
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island when they were hit by a light one
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person died and two were injured
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following this incident which was widely
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reported in a newspaper in the state of
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marinow
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these phenomena began to occur in cities
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in the states of Marino and parah near
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the border with Marino they were called
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Fireballs that flew over the houses of
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Riverside dwellers and emitted beams of
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light causing physiological effects such
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as weakness redness paralysis numbness
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headaches imbalance mental confusion and
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fainting most victims were simple people
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Riverside dwellers and fishermen who
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were attacked most of the time when they
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were alone at night and during the day
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these cases did not spare even the
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capital sa Lise which also began to be
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overflown by these devices a popular
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name given by visitors to the region
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when they started to observe not only
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lights but also the shapes of these
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aerial Vehicles the population in
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various locations in Marino was in a
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state of panic due to the beams of light
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the mayor of the city of pin hero Manuel
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piver even confirmed that the UFO
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phenomenon was real and that he would
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report it to the ministry of Aeronautics
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after one of the vehicles descended and
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flew over the city at low altitude
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starting from a wave that began in July
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1977 in the city of Vier near the border
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with Marino the focus of the
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phenomenon's activity shifted to the
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state of parah affecting even the
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capital BM going out of their their
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homes after 6:00 p.m. began gathering in
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the same houses and prayed to try to
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ward off the phenomenon of the Luminous
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be they responded with shotgun shots
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when these objects descended men were
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mainly hit in the neck region while
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women were hit in the chest area near
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their breasts meanwhile authorities
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tried to discredit the witnesses the
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Secretary of public security of the
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state of parah at the time flis gues Aro
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even declared these people should take a
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sedative or see a doctor there is no
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light in reality it's just
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imagination in the city of vi de nazare
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the Panic was so great that mayor Jose
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ilon favacho soero sent a letter to the
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Brazilian Air Force asking for help
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which was also followed by the mayor of
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the municipality of Karis Alfredo bastos
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the only doctor in the region Dr will
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seum tried to attend to the large number
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of people who crowded the medical
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centers claiming to have been affected
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by these luminous beams in the words of
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Dr Wade herself they were received by a
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beam of light that prevented them from
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moving any muscle even to ask for help
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from there the pain became unbearable
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and they were overcome by profound
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weakness as if they were being drugged
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the population began to abandon the city
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which entered a process of
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depopulation bringing hunger and a
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shortage of food even the only police
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officer in the municipality had fled in
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fear but the courageous Dr Wella
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continued to care for the population at
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that point a team from the Air Force was
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dispatched to the area to investigate
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what was happening and restore order in
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October
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1977 with the support of Mayor Alfredo
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bastos and councilman Manuel Costa
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military personnel from the second
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section the intelligence section of the
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Air Force went to the location under the
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command of Colonel Camilo ferz de baros
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and established themselves in the region
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a month later in November
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1977 Commander at the time Captain urang
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hollanda was assigned by the commander
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of the ioma Brigadier protasio Lopez the
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Ola to lead what he named Operation
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sorcer a clear reference to Flying
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sources although he believed that what
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was happening in the region had nothing
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mysterious about it he thought there was
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a straight explanation for everything
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the Navy also became interested in the
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matter report number 45 dated November
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23rd
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1977 issued by the command of the IV
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Naval District reported that from April
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1977 newspapers in BM began publishing
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various news articles about these UFOs
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that were terrorizing the states of
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parah and Marino this report includes a
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map of the most affected locations a
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drawing of the most frequently cited
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aerial vehicle which can be seen on the
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slide and a document signed by captain
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of SE and War Paulo Fernando Da Silva
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Souza which includes attachment number
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71 of
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1977 signed by a councilwoman from the
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municipal Council of Marana requesting
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assistance from the Armed Forces high
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command in Brazilia to investigate the
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phenomenon and take action the
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leadership of operation sourcer
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initially believed that it was all due
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to mass hysteria natural phenomena and
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the like however an event involving
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Commander urang Janda his team and
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members of the Former Intelligence
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service the Sni completely changed the
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course of the operation a disc-shaped
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aerial vehicle completely black with a
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light on the underside and an estimated
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size of 30 m in diameter hovered
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directly above the military personnel
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from that moment on
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the captain had no doubt that it was
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something mysterious and unknown another
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credible witness is Dr sheim herself she
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saw one of these aircraft up close in Dr
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W's own words up until that moment even
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though I had treated a huge number of
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people who had been attacked I still
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doubted that it could be something I
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could see Dr W saw in the late afternoon
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still in broad daylight a cylindrical
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fly object with a panoramic window
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inside which there were two beings with
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dark skin and blonde hair the reports
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prepared by the faab operation included
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drawings of the aircraft cited nine
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different shapes of various sizes
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according to the operations Commander
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more than 500 photographs and 16 hours
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of Super 8 and super 16 film footage
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were taken including three private films
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by helander that remained in The
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Possession of the Air Force According to
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helander some of the photos taken by him
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and his team showed motherships with the
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emergence and re-entry of smaller
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objects the commander said that they
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came face to face with an aircraft
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shaped like an American football 100 m
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long at a distance of only 60 M from
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them they were in front of a building
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this aircraft remained stationary in
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front of the military personnel and they
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filmed and photographed this phenomenon
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after discussing this footage and
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showing it to the military personnel in
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a special session operation sorcer was
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finally officially closed in August 1997
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after more than 20 years of Silence
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Commander helander was interviewed by
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ethologists G and peti revealing various
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details of the operation in April 2009
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the campaign by the Brazilian ethologist
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commission managed to release some
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documents from operation sorcer however
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according to operation Commander urang J
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helander the final report was sent to
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the Air Force High command in Brazilia
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and has not yet been fully released I
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appeal to the Air Force to fully release
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to the Brazilian people all documents
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from operation sorcer including
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photographs and film footage that have
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never been made public during interviews
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in 1997 urang helander already stated
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that he had information that these
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vehicles activities in the Amazon
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extended from east to west
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from fora to manow in fact nearly 40
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years after the cas is investigated in
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parah a new wave of phenomena occurred
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in the Amazon and was also investigated
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by the government these were cases in
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the state of acre where there were close
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encounters between indigenous people of
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the ashaninka ethnicity and unidentified
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phenomena according to indigenous
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reports these aircraft began to fly over
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them starting in 2013 and the first
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interactions between the ashaninka
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people and luminous phenomena in the
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rivers and forests of the region began
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to occur more significantly from July
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24th 2014 after the World Cup in Brazil
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an aircraft descended in the appi witzer
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village in AA on the border with Peru
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and fired beams of light at the
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indigenous people causing panic an
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indigenous woman suffered a miscarriage
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due to a fall during the incident the
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indigenous Le ship sent a letter to fi
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the national Indian Foundation following
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this letter which described the aircraft
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that had descended on the village is
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cylindrical and luminous funai initiated
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contact with the armed forces and the
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state government of AA the aircraft
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descended exactly in the clearing of
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this Village as shown in the photo the
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organizations involved in the subsequent
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investigation were fi the federal police
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the federal public Ministry and the
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state public public security Secretariat
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of a in response delegate Marcel Antonio
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NE initiated an inquiry known as inquiry
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number 184
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20144 to investigate whether any crimes
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were being committed against that
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Society or indigenous Community Federal
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police officers conducted a mission in
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that Village based on this inquiry and
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on August 20th fi issued a report
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summarizing the information and
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distributing it to various organizations
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including the armed forces and abin
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Brazilian intelligence agency indigenous
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tribal leaders reported that these
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objects were visiting the village all
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the time from 6:00 p.m. to 10 p.m.
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disrupting their fishing activities the
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federal police then conducted an initial
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mission one of the testimonies from this
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Mission comes from Paula colz a PhD in
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anthropology who filmed along with
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indigenous people an object descending
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on the village
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with white green and red lights in the
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video indigenous people begin shooting
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at this object which then abandons its
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approach and ascends towards the horizon
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this video is available and attached to
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the federal police's
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inquiry the federal police's inquiry was
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subsequently closed and archived due to
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a lack of evidence of any crimes against
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that population the public Ministry then
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intervened public Ministry based its
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actions on the words of anthropologist
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Dr Carolina kanduli who was in the
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village in January
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2015 to participate in a meeting between
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indigenous peoples of Brazil and Peru
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around 900 p.m. after dinner she saw
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luminous flashes being fired in the
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village clearing she found it strange
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because there were no clouds and the sky
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was clear she then prepared to sleep at
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the house of Isaac pako the current
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mayor of the nearby city of maral tho in
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Isaac's house she observed a spherical
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light entering the house about half a
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meter above the
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floor when Paula realized it wasn't a
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person and saw that phenomenon up close
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she was
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terrified she turned to the side and
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tried to sleep
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could
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with no team or resources to conduct a
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mission in the village the public
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ministry's investigation was
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terminated thinking that the phenomenon
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had ended in 2016 in a tribe further
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Southeast among the camper and isolated
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peoples of The inira River an object
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descended there was a group of
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indigenous people present this object
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burned all the lantern Wicks of these
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indigenous people
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one indigenous person fired a shotgun
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and the object emitted a beam of light
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that left him hospitalized he was
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rescued by the indigenous teacher Aon
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shown in the
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photo my investigation recently released
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in 2020 more than 120 pages of official
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documents from these investigations and
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over 20 minutes of videos collected by
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the federal police which are available
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to the Brazilian people these phenomena
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began in Peru in chulucanas in 2001
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where phenomena appeared going in and
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out of the sea going in and out of
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rivers they began to move towards PPA in
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2008 also in Peru and reached acre from
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2013 onwards in two tribes as far as we
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know but we also know that given the
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trend of this line other indigenous
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communities that are not protected by
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protective agencies might also be
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affected they respond with shotgun shots
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and are exposed to these luminous beams
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without knowing what is happening that's
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why what Jackson mentioned here is very
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important we need to talk about this
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issue and raise awareness among the
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population especially among those who
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are more isolated and in need such as
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our isolated peoples River dwellers
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indigenous people and
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fishermen these phenomena still occur
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today and there are places where these
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phenomena have been happening for
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decades the of sesa in Valencia Rio de
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Janeiro has been studied for decades by
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researchers in these regions luminous
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phenomena occur witnessed by arnaldo's
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Family whose presence I thank today a
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father of two children an entrepreneur
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he has great respect for these phenomena
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because he has lived with them since
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childhood From This Moment On I make a
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pledge here before the National Congress
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and the Brazilian people promising to
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report with all the truth and event
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observed by me for over 4 years during
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visits to this region I believe that as
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an engineer a master's student in
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physics a teacher and a federal public
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servant my credibility and testimony
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will contribute to arousing the interest
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of our congressman and research
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institutions in this matter on June 10th
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2021 at 6:47 p.m. an enormous light with
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a diameter of about 5 m resembling cast
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iron in color and Luminosity appeared at
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the top of the hill known as cruo where
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Arnaldo had built a 13 M cross in honor
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of his deceased father at that moment I
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paraphrase Commander helander to
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describe what I was seeing it was like a
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sun in front of me a very bright light
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but one you could stare at without
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hurting your eyes when the light dimmed
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I picked up my binoculars which had
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sufficent ient optical zoom to allow me
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to observe details of the phenomenon at
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an approximate distance of 18 M the same
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Clarity and distance at which I observe
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many of you here today instead of that
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light there were humanoid beings
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estimated to be between 3 and 5 m tall
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jet black in color opaque with bodies
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that appeared fluid like contained
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liquid and capable of floating smaller
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lights in the same color as the original
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light
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accompanied these beings it was clear
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that they were looking in my direction
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seeming to be aware of my presence
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impacted by the unknown I accidentally
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dropped the binoculars which were set up
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to record with attached accessories I
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then started filming the phenomenon only
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through a semi-professional camera with
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no Zoom feature a historic recording
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lasting several minutes but of poor
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quality due to the distance estimated at
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400 m this case highlights the
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difficulty of capturing good records of
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these phenomena due to human error it
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underscores the need for the use of
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automatic recording stations therefore
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on this historic day we are inaugurating
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on arnaldo's land who has contributed
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significantly to this subject
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scientifically by allowing researchers
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to visit his site and today he's here
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making himself available to the
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Government Federal research institutions
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and the Armed Forces to investigate
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these phenomena in the region I thank
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Arnaldo very much I request around of
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Applause if you can for the contribution
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he has been making to this issue and he
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is also available to the Brazilian
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people to anyone who wants to visit the
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region concluding my speech today we are
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inaugurating on this property the
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Expansion Project of the first
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monitoring station for these phenomena
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this station consists of state of of
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the-art motorized cameras with auto
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optical zoom communication antennas
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solar panels capable of automatically
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detecting and recording any phenomena
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that appear in the region in the near
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future various sensors will be installed
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to collect data on these occurrences as
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well as tracking software and artificial
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intelligence the same methodology 1
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minute just one minute to conclude
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please Ronnie thank you Senator the same
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methodology is already being executed
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with more substantial funding at the
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University of wburg in Germany and by
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the Galileo project at Harvard in the
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United States it's possible that in the
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near future we may have the first high
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resolution image of these unknown
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phenomena obtained by a civilian
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research institution the fact that this
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case as well as other less impressive
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ones I've observed does not describe
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lights going back and forth into space
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opens up a range of hypotheses for
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explaining the phenomenon
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could these be phenomena originating
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from Earth itself in an alternate
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reality or Dimension yet to be explored
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by modern physics could they be us from
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the future or could these be phenomena
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operating from our seas and rivers as
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observed in the Amazon cases and also in
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cases revealed by the US Navy and the US
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Department of Defense these are
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questions whose answers depend on data
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collection and Analysis by scientific
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institutions I conclude my presentation
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by asking Senators to make efforts so
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that the National Intelligence and
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security approach which has been in use
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in Brazil for decades without apparent
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results is complemented by a scientific
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research approach to study these
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phenomena that Peak the Curiosity of all
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of us and have the potential to
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transform the world as we know it in
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cultural anthropological sociological
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and technological terms thank you very
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much
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[Applause]
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thank you very much for your
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presentation Mr Ronnie
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ver who is an electronic engineer with
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specialization in Industrial Automation
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and
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Telecommunications
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I'd like to start by
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clarifying that I provided incorrect
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information
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earlier regarding the live broadcast of
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our session on TV
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sonado the session has been Live on
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YouTube from the
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beginning but due to another session
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taking
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place in the human rights committee
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right now our session in the
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Senate will be rebro on TV sonado at 2
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p.m. I wanted to provide this
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information let's
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proceed now I would like to invite our
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next guest to take the stand wherever
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they
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prefer our next speaker is Mr Ronnie
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ver an electronic and computer engineer
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with specialization in Industrial
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Automation and
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Telecommunications
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he is currently pursuing a master's
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degree in physics at the Brazilian
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Center for physics
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research Mr ver is a career employee of
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Petra
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BRZ and a technical education professor
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in the state of Rio De
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Janeiro thank you very much for your
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participation feel free to make your
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presentation honorable Senator Eduardo
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guon distinguished authorities and the
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Brazilian people the cases I'm about to
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present are impressive not only because
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they reveal unexplained phenomena that
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are interested in our indigenous and
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Riverside people in the Amazon but also
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because these incidents have been
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thoroughly investigated by the Brazilian
1:45
government and the documents are
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available through the access to
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Information Act and the National
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Archives some of these cases are
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sensitive as they involve permanent
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squali ey and deaths of individuals
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however simply closing our eyes and
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ignoring these facts will not help us
2:03
understand the origin of this problem
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let's reflect when we as researchers
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take a helicopter and land in the Amazon
2:12
rainforest tranquilize a Jaguar fit it
2:15
with a GPS perform invasive procedures
2:18
on it to study and preserve its species
2:21
is it aggression and if this Jaguar dies
2:24
due to a natural reaction of its
2:26
organism to the tranquilizer dart that
2:29
was ad ministered to the animal is it
2:31
murder from the animals perspective
2:33
probably yes but from the researchers
2:35
perspective they were only trying to
2:37
protect that species to allow us to
2:40
interpret these questions we need to
2:42
advance science towards the frontier of
2:45
the unknown and understand the origin
2:47
and intentions of these phenomena could
2:50
you please show the slides the documents
2:53
we will discuss are official documents
2:56
about cases in Marino parah and also AA
3:00
from both the Brazilian Air Force and
3:02
the federal police fi national Indian
3:06
foundation and the public prosecutor's
3:08
office the first case we will discuss is
3:11
from April 29th
3:12
1977 which occurred on Crab Island on a
3:16
boat people were removing wood from an
3:19
island when they were hit by a light one
3:21
person died and two were injured
3:25
following this incident which was widely
3:27
reported in a newspaper in the state of
3:29
marinow
3:30
these phenomena began to occur in cities
3:32
in the states of Marino and parah near
3:34
the border with Marino they were called
3:38
Fireballs that flew over the houses of
3:40
Riverside dwellers and emitted beams of
3:43
light causing physiological effects such
3:46
as weakness redness paralysis numbness
3:50
headaches imbalance mental confusion and
3:54
fainting most victims were simple people
3:57
Riverside dwellers and fishermen who
3:59
were attacked most of the time when they
4:01
were alone at night and during the day
4:04
these cases did not spare even the
4:07
capital sa Lise which also began to be
4:09
overflown by these devices a popular
4:12
name given by visitors to the region
4:15
when they started to observe not only
4:17
lights but also the shapes of these
4:20
aerial Vehicles the population in
4:22
various locations in Marino was in a
4:25
state of panic due to the beams of light
4:28
the mayor of the city of pin hero Manuel
4:31
piver even confirmed that the UFO
4:34
phenomenon was real and that he would
4:36
report it to the ministry of Aeronautics
4:38
after one of the vehicles descended and
4:40
flew over the city at low altitude
4:43
starting from a wave that began in July
4:46
1977 in the city of Vier near the border
4:49
with Marino the focus of the
4:52
phenomenon's activity shifted to the
4:54
state of parah affecting even the
4:57
capital BM going out of their their
4:59
homes after 6:00 p.m. began gathering in
5:02
the same houses and prayed to try to
5:05
ward off the phenomenon of the Luminous
5:07
be they responded with shotgun shots
5:10
when these objects descended men were
5:12
mainly hit in the neck region while
5:15
women were hit in the chest area near
5:17
their breasts meanwhile authorities
5:20
tried to discredit the witnesses the
5:22
Secretary of public security of the
5:24
state of parah at the time flis gues Aro
5:28
even declared these people should take a
5:30
sedative or see a doctor there is no
5:33
light in reality it's just
5:36
imagination in the city of vi de nazare
5:39
the Panic was so great that mayor Jose
5:42
ilon favacho soero sent a letter to the
5:45
Brazilian Air Force asking for help
5:47
which was also followed by the mayor of
5:49
the municipality of Karis Alfredo bastos
5:52
the only doctor in the region Dr will
5:55
seum tried to attend to the large number
5:57
of people who crowded the medical
5:59
centers claiming to have been affected
6:01
by these luminous beams in the words of
6:04
Dr Wade herself they were received by a
6:07
beam of light that prevented them from
6:09
moving any muscle even to ask for help
6:12
from there the pain became unbearable
6:15
and they were overcome by profound
6:17
weakness as if they were being drugged
6:20
the population began to abandon the city
6:23
which entered a process of
6:25
depopulation bringing hunger and a
6:27
shortage of food even the only police
6:30
officer in the municipality had fled in
6:32
fear but the courageous Dr Wella
6:35
continued to care for the population at
6:38
that point a team from the Air Force was
6:40
dispatched to the area to investigate
6:42
what was happening and restore order in
6:45
October
6:46
1977 with the support of Mayor Alfredo
6:48
bastos and councilman Manuel Costa
6:51
military personnel from the second
6:53
section the intelligence section of the
6:55
Air Force went to the location under the
6:58
command of Colonel Camilo ferz de baros
7:01
and established themselves in the region
7:04
a month later in November
7:07
1977 Commander at the time Captain urang
7:10
hollanda was assigned by the commander
7:12
of the ioma Brigadier protasio Lopez the
7:16
Ola to lead what he named Operation
7:20
sorcer a clear reference to Flying
7:22
sources although he believed that what
7:24
was happening in the region had nothing
7:26
mysterious about it he thought there was
7:28
a straight explanation for everything
7:31
the Navy also became interested in the
7:33
matter report number 45 dated November
7:36
23rd
7:38
1977 issued by the command of the IV
7:41
Naval District reported that from April
7:45
1977 newspapers in BM began publishing
7:48
various news articles about these UFOs
7:52
that were terrorizing the states of
7:53
parah and Marino this report includes a
7:56
map of the most affected locations a
7:59
drawing of the most frequently cited
8:01
aerial vehicle which can be seen on the
8:03
slide and a document signed by captain
8:06
of SE and War Paulo Fernando Da Silva
8:09
Souza which includes attachment number
8:13
71 of
8:15
1977 signed by a councilwoman from the
8:18
municipal Council of Marana requesting
8:21
assistance from the Armed Forces high
8:23
command in Brazilia to investigate the
8:25
phenomenon and take action the
8:28
leadership of operation sourcer
8:29
initially believed that it was all due
8:31
to mass hysteria natural phenomena and
8:34
the like however an event involving
8:36
Commander urang Janda his team and
8:40
members of the Former Intelligence
8:41
service the Sni completely changed the
8:45
course of the operation a disc-shaped
8:47
aerial vehicle completely black with a
8:50
light on the underside and an estimated
8:52
size of 30 m in diameter hovered
8:56
directly above the military personnel
8:58
from that moment on
8:59
the captain had no doubt that it was
9:01
something mysterious and unknown another
9:05
credible witness is Dr sheim herself she
9:09
saw one of these aircraft up close in Dr
9:13
W's own words up until that moment even
9:16
though I had treated a huge number of
9:18
people who had been attacked I still
9:20
doubted that it could be something I
9:22
could see Dr W saw in the late afternoon
9:26
still in broad daylight a cylindrical
9:28
fly object with a panoramic window
9:31
inside which there were two beings with
9:33
dark skin and blonde hair the reports
9:36
prepared by the faab operation included
9:39
drawings of the aircraft cited nine
9:41
different shapes of various sizes
9:44
according to the operations Commander
9:46
more than 500 photographs and 16 hours
9:49
of Super 8 and super 16 film footage
9:52
were taken including three private films
9:55
by helander that remained in The
9:58
Possession of the Air Force According to
10:01
helander some of the photos taken by him
10:03
and his team showed motherships with the
10:06
emergence and re-entry of smaller
10:09
objects the commander said that they
10:11
came face to face with an aircraft
10:13
shaped like an American football 100 m
10:17
long at a distance of only 60 M from
10:20
them they were in front of a building
10:22
this aircraft remained stationary in
10:24
front of the military personnel and they
10:26
filmed and photographed this phenomenon
10:28
after discussing this footage and
10:30
showing it to the military personnel in
10:32
a special session operation sorcer was
10:34
finally officially closed in August 1997
10:39
after more than 20 years of Silence
10:41
Commander helander was interviewed by
10:43
ethologists G and peti revealing various
10:46
details of the operation in April 2009
10:50
the campaign by the Brazilian ethologist
10:52
commission managed to release some
10:54
documents from operation sorcer however
10:57
according to operation Commander urang J
10:59
helander the final report was sent to
11:02
the Air Force High command in Brazilia
11:04
and has not yet been fully released I
11:07
appeal to the Air Force to fully release
11:09
to the Brazilian people all documents
11:11
from operation sorcer including
11:14
photographs and film footage that have
11:16
never been made public during interviews
11:18
in 1997 urang helander already stated
11:22
that he had information that these
11:24
vehicles activities in the Amazon
11:26
extended from east to west
11:29
from fora to manow in fact nearly 40
11:33
years after the cas is investigated in
11:36
parah a new wave of phenomena occurred
11:38
in the Amazon and was also investigated
11:41
by the government these were cases in
11:43
the state of acre where there were close
11:46
encounters between indigenous people of
11:47
the ashaninka ethnicity and unidentified
11:50
phenomena according to indigenous
11:53
reports these aircraft began to fly over
11:56
them starting in 2013 and the first
12:00
interactions between the ashaninka
12:01
people and luminous phenomena in the
12:04
rivers and forests of the region began
12:06
to occur more significantly from July
12:08
24th 2014 after the World Cup in Brazil
12:13
an aircraft descended in the appi witzer
12:15
village in AA on the border with Peru
12:19
and fired beams of light at the
12:21
indigenous people causing panic an
12:23
indigenous woman suffered a miscarriage
12:26
due to a fall during the incident the
12:28
indigenous Le ship sent a letter to fi
12:31
the national Indian Foundation following
12:33
this letter which described the aircraft
12:36
that had descended on the village is
12:37
cylindrical and luminous funai initiated
12:40
contact with the armed forces and the
12:43
state government of AA the aircraft
12:46
descended exactly in the clearing of
12:48
this Village as shown in the photo the
12:51
organizations involved in the subsequent
12:53
investigation were fi the federal police
12:56
the federal public Ministry and the
12:58
state public public security Secretariat
13:00
of a in response delegate Marcel Antonio
13:04
NE initiated an inquiry known as inquiry
13:07
number 184
13:09
20144 to investigate whether any crimes
13:12
were being committed against that
13:13
Society or indigenous Community Federal
13:17
police officers conducted a mission in
13:18
that Village based on this inquiry and
13:21
on August 20th fi issued a report
13:23
summarizing the information and
13:25
distributing it to various organizations
13:29
including the armed forces and abin
13:32
Brazilian intelligence agency indigenous
13:35
tribal leaders reported that these
13:37
objects were visiting the village all
13:39
the time from 6:00 p.m. to 10 p.m.
13:43
disrupting their fishing activities the
13:45
federal police then conducted an initial
13:48
mission one of the testimonies from this
13:50
Mission comes from Paula colz a PhD in
13:53
anthropology who filmed along with
13:55
indigenous people an object descending
13:58
on the village
13:59
with white green and red lights in the
14:02
video indigenous people begin shooting
14:05
at this object which then abandons its
14:08
approach and ascends towards the horizon
14:11
this video is available and attached to
14:14
the federal police's
14:16
inquiry the federal police's inquiry was
14:19
subsequently closed and archived due to
14:22
a lack of evidence of any crimes against
14:24
that population the public Ministry then
14:27
intervened public Ministry based its
14:30
actions on the words of anthropologist
14:32
Dr Carolina kanduli who was in the
14:34
village in January
14:36
2015 to participate in a meeting between
14:39
indigenous peoples of Brazil and Peru
14:42
around 900 p.m. after dinner she saw
14:44
luminous flashes being fired in the
14:47
village clearing she found it strange
14:49
because there were no clouds and the sky
14:52
was clear she then prepared to sleep at
14:55
the house of Isaac pako the current
14:57
mayor of the nearby city of maral tho in
15:01
Isaac's house she observed a spherical
15:03
light entering the house about half a
15:05
meter above the
15:10
floor when Paula realized it wasn't a
15:13
person and saw that phenomenon up close
15:16
she was
15:18
terrified she turned to the side and
15:21
tried to sleep
15:27
could
15:32
with no team or resources to conduct a
15:34
mission in the village the public
15:36
ministry's investigation was
15:39
terminated thinking that the phenomenon
15:41
had ended in 2016 in a tribe further
15:44
Southeast among the camper and isolated
15:47
peoples of The inira River an object
15:51
descended there was a group of
15:52
indigenous people present this object
15:55
burned all the lantern Wicks of these
15:57
indigenous people
15:59
one indigenous person fired a shotgun
16:01
and the object emitted a beam of light
16:03
that left him hospitalized he was
16:06
rescued by the indigenous teacher Aon
16:08
shown in the
16:11
photo my investigation recently released
16:14
in 2020 more than 120 pages of official
16:18
documents from these investigations and
16:21
over 20 minutes of videos collected by
16:24
the federal police which are available
16:26
to the Brazilian people these phenomena
16:29
began in Peru in chulucanas in 2001
16:32
where phenomena appeared going in and
16:34
out of the sea going in and out of
16:36
rivers they began to move towards PPA in
16:39
2008 also in Peru and reached acre from
16:43
2013 onwards in two tribes as far as we
16:47
know but we also know that given the
16:49
trend of this line other indigenous
16:52
communities that are not protected by
16:54
protective agencies might also be
16:56
affected they respond with shotgun shots
16:59
and are exposed to these luminous beams
17:02
without knowing what is happening that's
17:04
why what Jackson mentioned here is very
17:06
important we need to talk about this
17:08
issue and raise awareness among the
17:11
population especially among those who
17:13
are more isolated and in need such as
17:16
our isolated peoples River dwellers
17:18
indigenous people and
17:20
fishermen these phenomena still occur
17:23
today and there are places where these
17:25
phenomena have been happening for
17:27
decades the of sesa in Valencia Rio de
17:30
Janeiro has been studied for decades by
17:33
researchers in these regions luminous
17:36
phenomena occur witnessed by arnaldo's
17:38
Family whose presence I thank today a
17:42
father of two children an entrepreneur
17:44
he has great respect for these phenomena
17:46
because he has lived with them since
17:48
childhood From This Moment On I make a
17:51
pledge here before the National Congress
17:54
and the Brazilian people promising to
17:56
report with all the truth and event
17:58
observed by me for over 4 years during
18:01
visits to this region I believe that as
18:04
an engineer a master's student in
18:06
physics a teacher and a federal public
18:10
servant my credibility and testimony
18:12
will contribute to arousing the interest
18:15
of our congressman and research
18:17
institutions in this matter on June 10th
18:21
2021 at 6:47 p.m. an enormous light with
18:25
a diameter of about 5 m resembling cast
18:29
iron in color and Luminosity appeared at
18:32
the top of the hill known as cruo where
18:36
Arnaldo had built a 13 M cross in honor
18:39
of his deceased father at that moment I
18:43
paraphrase Commander helander to
18:45
describe what I was seeing it was like a
18:47
sun in front of me a very bright light
18:51
but one you could stare at without
18:52
hurting your eyes when the light dimmed
18:55
I picked up my binoculars which had
18:57
sufficent ient optical zoom to allow me
19:00
to observe details of the phenomenon at
19:02
an approximate distance of 18 M the same
19:06
Clarity and distance at which I observe
19:08
many of you here today instead of that
19:11
light there were humanoid beings
19:13
estimated to be between 3 and 5 m tall
19:17
jet black in color opaque with bodies
19:20
that appeared fluid like contained
19:22
liquid and capable of floating smaller
19:25
lights in the same color as the original
19:28
light
19:28
accompanied these beings it was clear
19:31
that they were looking in my direction
19:33
seeming to be aware of my presence
19:36
impacted by the unknown I accidentally
19:38
dropped the binoculars which were set up
19:40
to record with attached accessories I
19:43
then started filming the phenomenon only
19:45
through a semi-professional camera with
19:47
no Zoom feature a historic recording
19:50
lasting several minutes but of poor
19:52
quality due to the distance estimated at
19:55
400 m this case highlights the
19:59
difficulty of capturing good records of
20:01
these phenomena due to human error it
20:04
underscores the need for the use of
20:06
automatic recording stations therefore
20:09
on this historic day we are inaugurating
20:12
on arnaldo's land who has contributed
20:15
significantly to this subject
20:17
scientifically by allowing researchers
20:19
to visit his site and today he's here
20:23
making himself available to the
20:25
Government Federal research institutions
20:28
and the Armed Forces to investigate
20:31
these phenomena in the region I thank
20:33
Arnaldo very much I request around of
20:36
Applause if you can for the contribution
20:39
he has been making to this issue and he
20:41
is also available to the Brazilian
20:43
people to anyone who wants to visit the
20:46
region concluding my speech today we are
20:49
inaugurating on this property the
20:52
Expansion Project of the first
20:53
monitoring station for these phenomena
20:56
this station consists of state of of
20:58
the-art motorized cameras with auto
21:00
optical zoom communication antennas
21:03
solar panels capable of automatically
21:06
detecting and recording any phenomena
21:08
that appear in the region in the near
21:10
future various sensors will be installed
21:13
to collect data on these occurrences as
21:16
well as tracking software and artificial
21:19
intelligence the same methodology 1
21:21
minute just one minute to conclude
21:23
please Ronnie thank you Senator the same
21:27
methodology is already being executed
21:28
with more substantial funding at the
21:30
University of wburg in Germany and by
21:33
the Galileo project at Harvard in the
21:35
United States it's possible that in the
21:38
near future we may have the first high
21:40
resolution image of these unknown
21:42
phenomena obtained by a civilian
21:45
research institution the fact that this
21:47
case as well as other less impressive
21:49
ones I've observed does not describe
21:52
lights going back and forth into space
21:54
opens up a range of hypotheses for
21:56
explaining the phenomenon
21:58
could these be phenomena originating
22:00
from Earth itself in an alternate
22:03
reality or Dimension yet to be explored
22:05
by modern physics could they be us from
22:08
the future or could these be phenomena
22:11
operating from our seas and rivers as
22:14
observed in the Amazon cases and also in
22:16
cases revealed by the US Navy and the US
22:19
Department of Defense these are
22:21
questions whose answers depend on data
22:23
collection and Analysis by scientific
22:26
institutions I conclude my presentation
22:29
by asking Senators to make efforts so
22:31
that the National Intelligence and
22:33
security approach which has been in use
22:35
in Brazil for decades without apparent
22:37
results is complemented by a scientific
22:41
research approach to study these
22:43
phenomena that Peak the Curiosity of all
22:46
of us and have the potential to
22:48
transform the world as we know it in
22:51
cultural anthropological sociological
22:54
and technological terms thank you very
22:57
much
22:59
[Applause]
23:02
thank you very much for your
23:03
presentation Mr Ronnie
23:05
ver who is an electronic engineer with
23:08
specialization in Industrial Automation
23:11
and
23:12
Telecommunications
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