(09-05-2023, 07:14 PM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: Another prominent Russian propagandist makes yet another threat to start a nuclear war with the United States over Ukraine and the world barely notices and shrugs (because it’s absurd).
40 years ago, Russia and nuclear threats were taken much more seriously.
Quote:A Kremlin propagandist has issued the latest nuclear threat against the West regarding the war in Ukraine, warning that the U.S. could be in danger of a Russian missile attack.
Igor Korotchenko, editor of the newspaper National Defense and a regular guest on the Russia 1 channel where guests have repeatedly called for strikes against Ukraine's allies, took exception to criticism of Russian conduct in the war.
"Russia is being warned and threatened that if we misbehave, or if in [NATO senior member for logistics] Ben Hodges' opinion, we exceed what he considers to be the necessary permissible lines for the use of all types of Russian weapons, he threatens us with more than just strikes on the Crimean bridge," Korotchenko said.
Hodges has repeatedly called for Ukraine to be provided with all the weapons it needs to retake Crimea, such as ATACMS, (Army Tactical Missile Systems), which would allow long-range precision strikes on the peninsula Moscow annexed in 2014.
Korotchenko said that Hodges believed the U.S. might consider strikes on the bases of Russia's Black Sea Fleet and troops in Crimea, as well as strike Russian naval bases in Tartus, Syria.
Korotchenko believed these were "not just statements of a retired hawk" but also a concerted information campaign "designed to influence both us and a Western audience."
While the U.S. is the biggest provider of military aid to Ukraine, it has taken pains to avoid direct confrontation with Russia and has made no threats of attacking the targets that Korotchenko referred to.
But Korotchenko said there should be a discussion about what will determine "the use and permissibility of tactical nuclear weapons what goals and what tactics we will use."
"The most important message we should send to the Americans is that we will not wage war with you in Europe," he said in a clip subsequently posted on X (formerly Twitter) by Ukrainian internal affairs adviser Anton Gerashchenko.
"In response to your attacks on Russian military or civilian facilities, the first strike will be a preventative limited strike against targets on the territory of the United States of America, " he told the anchor of 60 Minutes, Yevgeny Popov. Last week, Russia announced that its Sarmat strategic missile system, which can reach the U.S., had been put on combat duty.
"Attention, United States!," wrote Geraschchenko next to the video. "Russian propagandists threaten with nuclear strikes on U.S. territory."
In response to Korotchenko's comments, Hodges told Newsweek that the U.S. administration was "finally realizing that the likelihood of Russia using a nuclear weapon is extremely small."
"Russia has been threatening nuclear strikes since the beginning. I take them seriously because Russia has thousands of nuclear weapons and because they clearly don't care how many innocent people may die," he said.
"But I think they realize that their nukes are actually most effective when they don't use them. They see how we self-deter."
"Crimea is the decisive terrain of this war," said Hodges of the peninsula, which has seen a stepping up of attacks believed to be carried out by Kyiv—including the Kerch Bridge that links the occupied territory with the Russian mainland.
"Once Ukraine liberates Crimea, it is over. Ukraine knows they cannot ever be safe or secure or rebuild their economy as long as Russia occupies Crimea," Hodges added.
Russian State TV Threatens Nuclear Strike on US
Igor had also predicted war between the US and China in 2027.
I can only imagine the fun they all had discussing nuclear weapons.
Explanation: Its absurd eh? ...
Nihilism = Everything is broken and sux


Pick one ok.
Personal Disclosure: I am a Z-tard on discord Politics server and I support Russia ...
Why?
Because I like winners and Russia has won, is winning and will win this war!
I have gamed out all scenarios in my mind and both debated and argued with others on these points already.
Russia has won the stalemate already, by retaining the eastern Ukraine in a kinetic war.
Jack Posobiec: The West’s Prolonging of The Ukrainian War Has Cost Countless Lives And Money For No Different Outcome
https://www.afr.com/world/europe/ukraine...901-p5e17z
Russia is winning currently by single handedly fending off up to 50 western/nato backed countries sanctions in an economic war ... Russia is slightly in the black and Ukraine is deeply in the red after the Black Sea grain deal was not renewed.
https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-...ntral-asia
Quote:Regional output is now expected to grow by 1.4% in 2023, substantially better than the previously anticipated 0.1%. The positive, though deeply depressed, economic activity in 2023 reflects a softer contraction of Russia’s economy and an improvement in Ukraine’s outlook. Regional growth is expected to increase to an average 2.7% over 2024-25 as inflation eases, domestic demand recovers, and the external environment improves.
https://www.worldbank.org/en/country/ukraine/overview
Quote:[b]Ukraine In Numbers[/b]
- [b]GDP [/b]projected to [b]grow by 0.5%[/b] in 2023 after contracting about 30% in 2022.
- [b]7.1 million[/b] additional Ukrainians are estimated to live in poverty.
- [b]15-year[/b] setback in poverty reduction goals.
- Ukraine needs [b]$11 billion[/b] for repairs and essential services in CY23.
Plus Ukraine has lost 25%+ of its base population which is down to 30million [now] from 42million [before the war]. Most will not return to Ukraine ever.
https://rmx.news/ukraine/the-demographic...the-front/
Quote:By 2001, it had dropped to 48.5 million, and right before the invasion, it stood at only 42 million, a fall of 10 million since 1991.
“These figures are consistent with population declines in all former Soviet republics, but the biggest blow came in the opening weeks of the war, which caused women and children to flee abroad en masse, given that the government had immediately banned the departures of men between the ages of 18 and 65. And today, the resident population is estimated at between 28 and 31 million,” writes the Italian newspaper.
“From 52 million to less than 30 in three decades: a very serious loss for the country, undermining its chances of reconstruction after the end of the war, penalizing economic normalization, and drowning the pension system,” says Alexander Demenchuk, rector of the Faculty of Political Science in Kyiv.
Russia will win a pyrrhic victory if by chance Ukraines failed counter offensive [so far] does actually do something and retakes the eastern Ukraine territories which will start WW3 nuclear war.
Warfare between US and Russia ‘can be fought and can be won’: Joe Siracusa
Quote:Curtin University Political Analyst Joe Siracusa says tactical warfare between the United tates and Russia “can be fought and can be won” as tensions rise between the two nations over the Ukraine war.
“Biden’s got the idea that he’s not going to go to war, not going to put troops into Ukraine,” he told Sky News Australia.
“Putin has simply delivered the hard message to the Americans, if you want to go into Ukraine or if NATO wants to go to Ukraine, you’re going to be looking at tactical nuclear warfare which by the way can be fought and can be won.”
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/rus...023-07-03/
So Ukraine has lost, is losing, will lose this war ... sorry, not sorry!
