Why Greenland

[Ninurta]

I'm not sure how folks around the world, including some in the US, are able to creatively twist Maduro's capture into a "kidnapping". Normally, kidnappings involve a ransom demand and a promise of release if the ransom is paid, and neither of those apply in this case. By that logic, ANY capture and arrest of ANY criminal should be classed as a "kidnapping", which would make the "no borders" Leftist claims of "kidnapping" of illegal aliens who are arrested for violations of law during immigration sweeps correct.

Nevertheless, many things in life are merely matters of perspective. One man's "kidnapping" is another man's "capture", and one man's "freedom fighter" is another man's "terrorist". Same thing, just a matter of perspective.

Another anomaly, from my perspective,are the constant claims of "violation of intentional law". I've yet to hear any of the pundits of such a claim cite which international law they are referring to, or when the US signed off on such law. All international law is based upon treaty obligations, and as such various nations are exempt based upon whether or not they are party to that particular treaty. Now, I'm not saying that no such treaty has been broken in this case, I'm just saying that the proponents of that theory seem to be having difficulty in dredging up the particulars that would support their claims.

Since there is no international governing body, sovereign states are only bound by the treaty obligations they have ratified, and have not withdrawn from. Some more, some less, and their sovereignty seems to be governed more by the enforcement of their borders than anything else - freely violateable borders are not really borders at all, so the sovereignty of any nation seems to hinge upon whether they assert their sovereignty by controlling their borders. As an example, during the Biden years, the United States abdicated it's sovereignty by a willful failure to enforce it's borders, whereas during the Trump years, the US has reclaimed that sovereignty by the simple expedient of enforcing it's borders..

.

[gortex]

Letter from Trump to the PM of Denmark.


Denmark does give the peace prize , can anybody name the 8 wars Trump has stopper ?

Sorry guys but this aint normal.

[Ninurta]

Denmark does give the peace prize , can anybody name the 8 wars Trump has stopper ?

Sorry guys but this aint normal.

Absolutely. This ain't normal - that's a bold statement of bald facts that cannot be disputed. I doubt we will know what "normal" is until the world resettles down into it's new configuration. Most likely, that new configuration is going to involve Canada and most likely the UK realigning with the CCP, based upon the apparent underlying philosophies of their current governments. Both governments have a lot more in common with the CCP these days (much to the detriment of their respective populations) than they do the US, so a realignment at this juncture does make sense.

Nor can I for one name these nebulous "8 wars" Trump is alleged to have prevented or stopped. To be honest, I've never been induced enough to care what they were, so I've never even tried to look into it, nor am I going to be sidetracked into doing so.

Personally, I'm opposed to the US acquisition of Greenland on pragmatic grounds rather than the emotional ones that seem to be dragging Denmark around by the gonads. So far, no one has articulated any logical justification for a US takeover of that ice-ball that could possibly justify the expenditures that Trump and company are contemplating putting into it. I'm hearing several pseudo-justifications like "north Atlantic security" which is just nuts - neither Greenland nor Denmark have ever refused the US a base in Greenland for North Atlantic security purposes - and I'm hearing "rare Earth metals" which is also nuts. There is not enough ice free ground to mine in Greenland to make the enterprise practical. So far, all that has occurred there despite their best efforts is a couple of small-scale mines in the scanty ice free coastal corridors of Greenland. Nothing to write home about, and one may notice that before this debacle no one DID write home about it.

In other words, no one, but NO ONE, has been able to demonstrate any benefit to the US in the acquisition of Greenland that could possibly justify the inordinate expenditures that such and acquisition would entail. They have not been able to demonstrate the BENEFIT to the US that would contribute to the "Make America Great Again" philosophy..

So, I remain convinced this is much ado about nothing, a tempest in a teapot, and a distraction designed to hold the world's attention on Greenland while Trump accomplishes some nefarious design elsewhere. It will probably remain so until whatever that other design is comes to fruition... when people will say "where did THAT come from? How did THAT happen?", not realizing that it was all going on behind the scenes while their attention was deftly captured and frozen in a Greenland glacier.

I'm not very happy with Mr. Trump at the moment, especially considering the way he appears to have thrown the Iranian population under the bus, but am forced to admit this distraction does appear to be a master stroke to cover whatever it is that he's really up to.

P.S. - Where is the Presidential Seal on that letter to the Danish PM? Doesn't actual White House letterhead have the Presidential Seal in it's header?

.

[727Sky]

Interesting comments about Greenland

[EndtheMadnessNow]

Just when you thought Putin was losing his edge, he pops off an impromptu lecture on the history of American security interests in Greenland.


https://x.com/white_lenka/status/2010095202338472168

Afterall, if Trump annexes Greenland, NATO further degrades to a footnote and Putin's wish is finally fulfilled.

Last year Denmark's own intelligence agencies had been making reports about Russians might come for Greenland to further inflate the Russia threat so America would commit further to Europe. I wonder if the Danes undermined themselves with their own war propaganda and now daddy is unstoppable. Plus Trump called the Euro leaders worse than the CCP.



Tucker Carlson: “Why do you think President Trump wants Greenland?”

Putin: “Well, European discovery of Greenland is often incorrectly credited to Erik the Red, but in fact Gunnbjörn Ulfsson had previously sighted the island as attested by the Icelandic Landnámabók. Iceland at this time was popul.”

Gunnbjörn Ulfsson, who sighted the island around 900 AD, according to the Icelandic Landnámabók. Erik the Red, exiled from Iceland in 982, explored and founded the first settlement in 985, naming it "Greenland" to attract settlers.

[727Sky]

[Ninurta]

The Chagos Islands in general, and Diego Garcia in particular, are at least as important, and probably far and away more important, than Greenland in terms of global stability. It is a central base for power projection and response to about half of the world, from Africa in an arc sweeping through the Middle East, Iran, Pakistan down through Southeast Asia into Australia... and is damn near untouchable to nearly all of the powers in that region. To give them away to essentially China via Mauritius Is one of the strongest acts of appeasement and cowardice that has taken place in generations.

Neville Chamberlain is probably fapping in his grave until his skin chafes at the prospect.

Trump really should ask the Chagosians if they would like to be under the protection of the US, since Britain is just throwing them to the wind, and put that proposition to a vote of the Chagosians.

I think it's likely that Comrade Starmer might very likely piss all over himself at that prospect.

This is just more evidence of what I've said before - that the UK government, much to the detriment of the people it is governing, is realigning itself with China in hopes that English will be swapped for Mandarin instead of Arabic in the next generation or two.

.

[Bally002]

The Chagos Islands in general, and Diego Garcia in particular, are at least as important, and probably far and away more important, than Greenland in terms of global stability. It is a central base for power projection and response to about half of the world, from Africa in an arc sweeping through the Middle East, Iran, Pakistan down through Southeast Asia into Australia... and is damn near untouchable to nearly all of the powers in that region. To give them away to essentially China via Mauritius Is one of the strongest acts of appeasement and cowardice that has taken place in generations.

Neville Chamberlain is probably fapping in his grave until his skin chafes at the prospect.

Trump really should ask the Chagosians if they would like to be under the protection of the US, since Britain is just throwing them to the wind, and put that proposition to a vote of the Chagosians.

I think it's likely that Comrade Starmer might very likely piss all over himself at that prospect.

This is just more evidence of what I've said before - that the UK government, much to the detriment of the people it is governing, is realigning itself with China in hopes that English will be swapped for Mandarin instead of Arabic in the next generation or two.

.

Hmm.  Maybe Falkland Islands next.

Regards,

Bally)

[ancientlight]

I just wanted to post about this. Appearantly Venezuala & Canada, Mexico etc as well.  It's about control off course, energy control.

This video explains from 8:15:

[Ninurta]

Hmm.  Maybe Falkland Islands next.

Regards,

Bally)

I've heard quiet rumors of the Falklands being given to Argentina and renamed to whatever Argentina calls them. If that were to happen, it would be a real kick in the teeth to some members here, who fought in the Falklands back in the day, possibly reducing their sacrifices to nought.

As I was sitting here considering the Greenland matter, I did finally stumble upon one possible justification for US control of that frozen wasteland. The scenario goes like this:

It's a known fact that China has a controlling interest in at least one of the rare earth mines in the coastal area of Greenland. It's not for the meager amounts of minerals being mined, nor is it for the dismal return on investment the mine represents. So what IS it for? Possibly, it is to set up a pretext in a 4D chess game. It leaves the door open for China to station troops there "to protect their investment in the mine", which of course would place Chinese troops much, MUCH closer to the US mainland than they currently are. It's possible that Trump has projected ahead and assessed that probability, and in intent on taking action to prevent that possibility.

If that's the case, then all the claims of "rare earth minerals" and "north Atlantic security measures "and policing the opening polar ice lanes" are, of course, all just smoke screens for "maintaining US national security". To be perfectly honest, given the current state of kowtowing to the CCP, I don't think it's prudent to trust either European nations or even NATO to provide that sort of protection to the US against the CCP, so prudence would dictate US control of the island ice ball.

That's the only scenario I can come up with that might explain the otherwise lunatic shenanigans going on right now concerning Greenland - it's all a matter of just whose pretext snags the island first in a global 4D chess game of dominance, and the current state of affairs provides no assurances that current US allies will remain so in their efforts to fall all over themselves to appease China.

.

[F2d5thCav]

Was reading about Denmark's forced sterilization of Greenland native women.

Some old colonial thing from the 1800s ?  Nah.  Was going on into the NINETEEN-SEVENTIES.  To make matters worse, Danish authorities have little interest in trying to set matters right ... if that is even possible.

Not so surprised the Greenlanders might want a new gig, Denmark appears to have screwed the pooch there.

[727Sky]

[727Sky]

No tariffs needed as it looks like a Greenland deal has or is being made. Dow is happy !!

[727Sky]

[gortex]

Was reading about Denmark's forced sterilization of Greenland native women.

Some old colonial thing from the 1800s ?  Nah.  Was going on into the NINETEEN-SEVENTIES.  To make matters worse, Danish authorities have little interest in trying to set matters right ... if that is even possible.

Not so surprised the Greenlanders might want a new gig, Denmark appears to have screwed the pooch there.

Problem there mate is forced sterilization was happening in America at the same time.

Assisted by government assumptions that high Native American birth rates should be stemmed, and bolstered by lax law enforcement and inaccurate descriptions of medical procedures provided to women who thought they were being treated for things like appendicitis, a rash of forced sterilizations began in the 1960s. Even after legislation designed to protect women from forced sterilization was passed in 1974, the abusive sterilizations continued. Between 1970 and 1976 alone, between 25 and 50 percent of Native American women were sterilized.
https://daily.jstor.org/the-little-known...can-women/

We all have skeletons in our closets.

[727Sky]

Looks like the Greenland deal was mostly about the proposed Golden Dome defense.

[727Sky]

[gortex]

The US already has over 250 square miles of Greenland situated under Pituffik Space Base formally known as Thule Air Base , that is quite a large area for his "Golden Dome".

Seems to me Don sees his friends Vlad and Netty grabbing land and wants a piece of the action , unless this is all a smoke screen to divert attention from other matters , have all of the Epstein files been released yet ?

[F2d5thCav]

Hard to say without knowing particulars of the defense system.  It may need placement at various locations to be fully effective.