(07-11-2023, 12:15 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: Documentary film featuring Dr. Michael S. Heiser (biblical scholar who passed away recently) - explores the unexpected intersection between UFOs, alien abductions, US military & Nazis, Roswell cover-up, the world of angels and demons (Nephilim/Anakim/Rephaim), and the ancient texts that speak of them.  Really fascinating lecture that kept me engaged for over an hour.

(07-11-2023, 03:04 PM)Schmoe Wrote:   There was a tribe located somewhere in WW2 I believe, who saw US planes and thought the pilots were God's, they made offerings and I think they even made a runway.

Quote:This bizarre episode is by no means the single event of its kind in the murky history of the collision of European civilization with the indigenous cultures of the southwest Pacific. For more than 100 years traders and missionaries have been reporting similar disturbances among the peoples of Melanesia, the group of Negro-inhabited islands (including New Guinea, Fiji, the Solomons and the New Hebrides) lying between Australia and the open Pacific Ocean. Though their technologies were based largely upon stone and wood, these peoples had highIy developed cultures, as measured by the standards of maritime and agricultural ingenuity, the complexity of their varied social organizations and the elaboration of religious belief and ritual. They were nonetheless ill prepared for the shock of the encounter with the Whites, a people so radically different from themselves and so infinitely more powerful. The sudden transition from the society of the ceremonial stone ax to the society of sailing ships and now of airplanes has not been easy to make.\

50 Years Ago: Cargo Cults of Melanesia

(07-11-2023, 05:08 PM)DaphneApollo Wrote: I watched it all EMN.  Very good presentation, this speaker is quite knowledgeable.  And believes what I believe.  

I saw this video on some program in the mid 80’s ‘Mysterys’ and I was/am a serious believer in aliens existing, but I thought “Why would that work” it changed my view on these abductions, they are here for nefarious/evil intentions.  

I’m sure you’ve seen this.

(07-11-2023, 03:04 PM)Schmoe Wrote:

(07-11-2023, 12:15 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: Documentary film featuring Dr. Michael S. Heiser (biblical scholar who passed away recently) - explores the unexpected intersection between UFOs, alien abductions, US military & Nazis, Roswell cover-up, the world of angels and demons (Nephilim/Anakim/Rephaim), and the ancient texts that speak of them.  Really fascinating lecture that kept me engaged for over an hour.

Thanks, I'll check it out later.  I'm definitely interested in the possible link between aliens and demons, whether aliens have been misinterpreted as demons or vice versa.

I mean, if they came here thousands of years ago, I myself would have assumed it was God.  There was a tribe located somewhere in WW2 I believe, who saw US planes and thought the pilots were God's, they made offerings and I think they even made a runway.  Not trying to derail, that's all I'll say, but it's interesting to think about the possible correlation.

(07-11-2023, 07:25 PM)kdog Wrote: I haven't watched it yet. I wonder if it mentions the story about the first night vision googles used in the Vietnam war were the people that used them were freaking out because they were seeing demons and creatures through them and the military discontinued their use.

(07-11-2023, 07:56 PM)Schmoe Wrote:

(07-11-2023, 07:25 PM)kdog Wrote: I haven't watched it yet. I wonder if it mentions the story about the first night vision googles used in the Vietnam war were the people that used them were freaking out because they were seeing demons and creatures through them and the military discontinued their use.

I heard about that too, they used dicyanin dye in the lenses to filter out certain light spectrums.  I can't say either way to it's veracity, but it's very interesting.

(07-12-2023, 01:07 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(07-11-2023, 07:56 PM)Schmoe Wrote:

(07-11-2023, 07:25 PM)kdog Wrote: I haven't watched it yet. I wonder if it mentions the story about the first night vision googles used in the Vietnam war were the people that used them were freaking out because they were seeing demons and creatures through them and the military discontinued their use.

I heard about that too, they used dicyanin dye in the lenses to filter out certain light spectrums.  I can't say either way to it's veracity, but it's very interesting.

At one time, and maybe still, you could get glasses with the glass containing dicyanin dye. Folks said you could see "things" through them. I never tried them, so I'll never know, I reckon.

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(07-12-2023, 01:41 AM)Schmoe Wrote:

(07-12-2023, 01:07 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(07-11-2023, 07:56 PM)Schmoe Wrote:

(07-11-2023, 07:25 PM)kdog Wrote: I haven't watched it yet. I wonder if it mentions the story about the first night vision googles used in the Vietnam war were the people that used them were freaking out because they were seeing demons and creatures through them and the military discontinued their use.

I heard about that too, they used dicyanin dye in the lenses to filter out certain light spectrums.  I can't say either way to it's veracity, but it's very interesting.

At one time, and maybe still, you could get glasses with the glass containing dicyanin dye. Folks said you could see "things" through them. I never tried them, so I'll never know, I reckon.

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I tried looking for any sort of dicyanin lenses and couldn't find any at all

(07-12-2023, 02:34 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(07-12-2023, 01:41 AM)Schmoe Wrote:

(07-12-2023, 01:07 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(07-11-2023, 07:56 PM)Schmoe Wrote:

(07-11-2023, 07:25 PM)kdog Wrote: I haven't watched it yet. I wonder if it mentions the story about the first night vision googles used in the Vietnam war were the people that used them were freaking out because they were seeing demons and creatures through them and the military discontinued their use.

I heard about that too, they used dicyanin dye in the lenses to filter out certain light spectrums.  I can't say either way to it's veracity, but it's very interesting.

At one time, and maybe still, you could get glasses with the glass containing dicyanin dye. Folks said you could see "things" through them. I never tried them, so I'll never know, I reckon.

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I tried looking for any sort of dicyanin lenses and couldn't find any at all

They're pretty pricey, but here is a link: https://www.etsy.com/market/dicyanin_dye



This link gives a bullshit song-and-dance about how highly classified dicyanin is, and how you have to have some kind of super-duper government clearance to get it... but then at the bottom of the bullshit gives a link where anyone can get it: https://www.officialauraglasses.com/



There is also a bunch of bullshit across the internet claiming dicyanin is illegal, and highly classified and whatnot (including that last like for glasses), but that's all hogwash. There is nothing illegal about it, it's just that they don't have any use for it any more, so no one still makes it. A decent chemist can whip up a batch fairly easily, though, and won't get vanned for his efforts.

Here is a book at Amazon that tells how to make dicyanin. It's an old book, now in the public domain, but I couldn't find a PDF for download at the Internet Archive.


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(07-12-2023, 06:06 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Schmoe--

Vaguely recall reading that dye is poisonous.  Exercise caution if you get ahold of it.  That may have been why its use was discouraged for things like goggles.

Plenty of night vision goggles available these days.  Only question is how much money one wants to pay; the best ones are pricey.

Yeah, cargo cults.  Always thought that was interesting.  We should send some guys in an Osprey to them and hand out some MREs!

Cheers