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RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - 727Sky - 07-10-2023

Maybe our military is envious of the perfect form and uniforms of the Chinese during parades. I must admit they can march !! So maybe in a few short years we will be having our military do Pride Marching with snazzy uniforms and all; that should scare the communist from ever bending over to American demands !


RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - EndtheMadnessNow - 07-11-2023

(07-10-2023, 09:08 PM)727Sky Wrote: Maybe our military is envious of the perfect form and uniforms of the Chinese during parades. I must admit they can march !! So maybe in a few short years we will be having our military do Pride Marching with snazzy uniforms and all; that should scare the communist from ever bending over to American demands !

That reminds me...during Navy boot camp I was one of a dozen chosen to be on the honor guard. Weeks of training throwing the rifle w/bayonet in the hot sun at each other and a few light scars on my stomach paid off in the end for grad ceremony. We were damn good and impressed everyone. Fun memories. Can't imagine how they're doing it now.


RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - Snarl - 07-11-2023

(07-10-2023, 09:08 PM)727Sky Wrote: So maybe in a few short years we will be having our military do Pride Marching with snazzy uniforms and all; that should scare the communist from ever bending over to American demands !

Everyone should be a little more careful of the company they're in before bending over ... for anything.  Laughing


RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - NightskyeB4Dawn - 07-11-2023

(07-11-2023, 12:25 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: That reminds me...during Navy boot camp I was one of a dozen chosen to be on the honor guard. Weeks of training throwing the rifle w/bayonet in the hot sun at each other and a few light scars on my stomach paid off in the end for grad ceremony. We were damn good and impressed everyone. Fun memories. Can't imagine how they're doing it now.

I was so lousy, it was embarrassing. They finally just made a spot in the grass and told me to just stand there.


RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - 727Sky - 07-11-2023

(07-11-2023, 12:09 PM)Snarl Wrote:
(07-10-2023, 09:08 PM)727Sky Wrote: So maybe in a few short years we will be having our military do Pride Marching with snazzy uniforms and all; that should scare the communist from ever bending over to American demands !

Everyone should be a little more careful of the company they're in before bending over ... for anything.  Laughing
I was wondering if suttle laconic humor was dead ?? WTG you made my day !


RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - dbcowboy - 07-11-2023

I entered Basic in 1981.  Air Force.

My youngest son is graduating from Air Force Basic in two weeks.

We've talked a couple times.

The differences are astounding.


RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - 727Sky - 07-12-2023

(07-11-2023, 10:26 PM)dbcowboy Wrote: I entered Basic in 1981.  Air Force.

My youngest son is graduating from Air Force Basic in two weeks.

We've talked a couple times.

The differences are astounding.
Basic In the summer of 1967 where salt tablets were issued at Ft. Polk La. and one Korean drill Sargent was the terror of the base. Thankfully he was not my Platoon Drill Sargent but close enough to observe . He got busted down one stripe as he insisted all his Platoon were no better than trash so he had them all climb into a big  stinky dumpster. Then he told them on the count of 3 the last people out of the dumpster would spend the rest of the day with some real quality time with him. At least one Broken Collar Bone, one arm, and no telling what else happened which did not set well with trying to get people to Nam.

It was a different world back then...there were other things of course but time has faded those memories.. I do remember when someone did not salute correctly he would grab the thumb of the offending trainee and bend it in a way that had them on their knees in pain.. His platoon had some snappy good looking salutes I will say ! Sometime later a rule was passed that said a Drill Sargent could not touch a trainee without permission so always being a rule kinda guy he would ask first before twisting a guys thumb off. The most terrifying words at the base became "May I touch you"!

I had gone to a military academy which was worse than the real military ever put out.. so basic to me other than the heat (I was a squad leader) was not that big of a deal as I knew how to play the game. Then off to 6 weeks of B.S. preflight training where sleep deprivation and officer training went hand in hand before actual flight training began. I learned how to sleep at parade rest (no shit)!
Auhhhh those were the days !!


RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - F2d5thCav - 07-12-2023

My time in was under the command, mostly, of Vietnam vets.  Those guys were flush with common sense, unlike the people that came after.

Recall the platoon barking "WETSU Sir!" a few times in formation.  And we did eat it up, all the way.

Cheers


RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - Bally002 - 07-12-2023

(07-12-2023, 07:07 AM)727Sky Wrote:
(07-11-2023, 10:26 PM)dbcowboy Wrote: I entered Basic in 1981.  Air Force.

My youngest son is graduating from Air Force Basic in two weeks.

We've talked a couple times.

The differences are astounding.
Basic In the summer of 1967 where salt tablets were issued at Ft. Polk La. and one Korean drill Sargent was the terror of the base. Thankfully he was not my Platoon Drill Sargent but close enough to observe . He got busted down one stripe as he insisted all his Platoon were no better than trash so he had them all climb into a big  stinky dumpster. Then he told them on the count of 3 the last people out of the dumpster would spend the rest of the day with some real quality time with him. At least one Broken Collar Bone, one arm, and no telling what else happened which did not set well with trying to get people to Nam.

It was a different world back then...there were other things of course but time has faded those memories.. I do remember when someone did not salute correctly he would grab the thumb of the offending trainee and bend it in a way that had them on their knees in pain.. His platoon had some snappy good looking salutes I will say ! Sometime later a rule was passed that said a Drill Sargent could not touch a trainee without permission so always being a rule kinda guy he would ask first before twisting a guys thumb off. The most terrifying words at the base became "May I touch you"!

I had gone to a military academy which was worse than the real military ever put out.. so basic to me other than the heat (I was a squad leader) was not that big of a deal as I knew how to play the game. Then off to 6 weeks of B.S. preflight training where sleep deprivation and officer training went hand in hand before actual flight training began. I learned how to sleep at parade rest (no shit)!
Auhhhh those were the days !!

I can see this.  I joined at 15 old.  Graduated at 16 years.  12 months of basic boot camp training.  Dawn till dusk.  Each day.  Yelled at constantly.  Even the lowest rank (basically everyone) was referred to as 'sir' by me as a junior recruit.   Only saluted officer types.  I feared the gunnery officer.  

Trained and educated in everything I could imagine.  After graduating I went to my assigned rating that was not my preference but similar.  Spent 3 months assimilation then another 9 months training before trusted with the task of maintaining, electrically and manually arming of aircraft. Served my nine years abroad and locally.

You know what?  The UN determined that 'child soldiers' were not to be trained.   The program was terminated in line with the UN so young people could not be taught basics at such a young age.  That's government for you.  They took the bended knee.

How long ago?  For the first 6 months we trained with vintage WW2 .303 rifles and bayonets then we later trusted with 7.62 SLR and bayonets for the next 6 months.  I still have the pics including flying back seat in TA4 Skyhawk and S2E Tracker. (I always got sick in the Hawk.) but this is what discipline as a mid teen did for me and I and the others who went through the same extremes are a solid group and are proud of our initial service that was better than any schooling.

I ended up as an instructor and the drill and parade commander for a police force.

But this isn't about me.  Its about the service and the quantity of self discipline and respect that was instilled into me by that organisation at a young age.


Kind regards,

Bally


RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - Infolurker - 07-18-2023

Appears the stupid is never-ending. When I was in the military, there were separate buildings or floors for females for obvious reasons. The big issue here as well is half of these dudes claim to be "lesbians". Sexual assaults and related problems were a major concern in "the old days".

I doubt many females are going to put up with this type of conduct from the military.

Female recruit considered resigning after being forced to shower with trans women with full male genitalia

The 18-year-old recruit's options included resigning to avoid the 'extremely uncomfortable situation'


https://www.foxnews.com/media/female-recruit-considered-resigning-being-forced-shower-trans-women-full-male-genitalia


Quote:An 18-year-old military recruit forced to shower with biological males as part of the Biden administration's transgender policies is complaining about being placed in an "extremely uncomfortable position." 


The report was first raised at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing Tuesday. The girl is afraid to speak out of fear it will harm her career, Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD) told Fox News Digital in an interview. Her options were slim and included resigning from her early-career position. 

It was believed raising the matter in a complaint could have harmful impacts on the new recruit's military career

According to Rounds, the military recruit, 18, is complaining about being forced to sleep in between "two individuals who were supposedly changing from male to female." The girl also has to shower with the individuals and reported significant distress about the matter. The individuals housed with the 18-year-old had initiated chemical interventions to change genders, but without having reassignment surgery, their genitalia were fully intact. 


Rounds said heard about the matter from the attorney general of the South Dakota National Guard. 

"He had contacted our office very concerned about the information he had received from the recruit," Rounds said. "The respect that this young recruit should have received and the privacy that she should have had, she was being deprived of." 

The Pentagon released a statement to Fox News Digital, which said, "DoD policy is that all Service members must be treated with dignity and respect. We would encourage any troop who’s feeling uncomfortable or has concerns about privacy in shared spaces to work through their chain of command. Commanders may employ reasonable accommodations to respect the privacy interests of Service members."

As for the girl's recourse for the discomforting living situation, the senator said "her options were not good." 



"She could have basically resigned or stepped away. She could have started over again. But nonetheless, it was an extremely uncomfortable position. And I think this is one of the reasons why we're not meeting our recruitment goals now," he said. 

When asked whether other women in the military may be experiencing similar discomforting scenarios due to the transgender policies in place, Sen. Rounds pointed to the Biden administration's failure to meet recruitment goals. 

The "recruitment crisis" is partially due to Biden's "woke agenda that we now see coming down by executive order," Rounds said.




RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - Infolurker - 07-20-2023

Well, this answers the question on the "WEIGHT STANDARDS" with a particular group. Confidential Memo discovered.

Biden DoD Lets Transgender Service Members Skip Deployments, Receive Indefinite Physical Fitness Waivers: Confidential Memo

https://ground.news/article/biden-dod-lets-transgender-service-members-skip-deployments-receive-indefinite-physical-fitness-waivers-confidential-memo

https://dailycaller.com/2023/07/19/memo-army-medical-center-transgender-soldiers/



Quote:Forget Super Soldier Serum! It's the reverse of that as the military's new policy for transgender active service members. They can now get cross-sex hormones and sex changes on taxpayer dollars and avoid deployment and active duty while transitioning.

They can also get out of fitness and grooming standards which is necessary given the number of counter-indications that have been associated with these hormones and surgeries used for gender dysphoria including: headaches, memory loss, weight gain, osteoporosis, teeth that shed enamel or cracked, degenerative spinal disks, painful joints, radical mood swings, seizures, migraines and suicidal thoughts, fibromyalgia, fertility problems and cognitive issues. Good thing we're a peaceful country with an army like that! Oh wait...?



RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - Infolurker - 08-05-2023

How many millions is this costing the taxpayer?  I remember you could not even get braces in the military let alone elective procedures (breast augmentation, etc.)

https://www.airforcemedicine.af.mil/News/Display/Article/2673086/59th-mdw-treats-transgender-service-members/

Military's New Transgender Treatment SPA (not clickbait)
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RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - Snarl - 08-08-2023

(08-05-2023, 07:41 PM)Infolurker Wrote:

Looks exactly like the US Military's Bud Light moment. Just remember what happened to the exec who made that call ... and then ask why that's not happening across the full spectrum of our gooberment ... from the highest ranking NCOs straight up to the Commander In Chief.

Bring the axe down on all of 'em. Problem solved.

Sort'a serves as validation for all of us who said the utterance of Don't Ask ... Don't Tell was the death knell.

And ... fuck those people who say, "Change is inevitable." At some given point, First Amendment protected speech becomes an act of Treason ... as much as firing a bullet from a Second Amendment protected gun can end up an act of murder.


RE: MILITARY SERVICE REQUIREMENT! - quintessentone - 08-08-2023

I wanted to post 'where there's a will there's a way' but no, 'where one has a higher rank in the military then there's a way'.