(06-29-2023, 02:44 AM)Freija Wrote: Oh, this is too good and so completely applicable to some of you here. I urge you to suffer through the video, speed it up if you have to and if you're self-aware enough, see if some of you fine folks aren't exactly as she describes? Don't worry though, she points out the same behavior for those on the far left.

(06-29-2023, 03:23 AM)Infolurker Wrote: I mean really, when it comes to disinformation and bullshit, the MSM IS the main pusher of disinformation! Worse yet, they want to censor anyone disputing their bullshit or calling out them "burying or not reporting" on stories at all if it goes against the DNC agenda.

You say Conservatives are falling for fake news..... please describe what fake news say I am falling for?


Here, this will generally prove the point, your video presenter fits in here:

https://www.tiktok.com/@commandmentx1/video/7223502169062788398

(06-29-2023, 02:44 AM)Freija Wrote: Oh, this is too good and so completely applicable to some of you here. I urge you to suffer through the video, speed it up if you have to and if you're self-aware enough, see if some of you fine folks aren't exactly as she describes? Don't worry though, she points out the same behavior for those on the far left.

(06-29-2023, 10:09 PM)Freija Wrote:  

I understand whose house I am in here and the sway of this community to the right and further right but I have been here long enough to hope, even if perhaps foolishly, that we might maintain some degree of intelligence, balance and objectivity without falling into the category of just another partisan internet filter bubble.

(06-29-2023, 10:09 PM)Freija Wrote: If you got hung up on some of the words used and didn’t watch the whole thing or blew it off as some progressive leftwing nonsense, why am I not surprised? The truth hurts.

Quote:Clearly though, some of the points and behaviors outlined in the video are absolutely and directly applicable to some of our members here that are quick to parrot salacious or highly questionable right-wing media stories, rumors, conspiracies and conjecture without taking the time to vet whether they are accurate or not or present the proper backstory or context for them to be seen as anything other than partisan propaganda hence virtue signaling their affiliation for those on their ‘side” in order to promote their social standing within the group. Frankly, it is pretty lame.

Quote:More times often than not, most of these posts are focused on negativity, doom and division and do nothing but add to the chaos and outrage and are posted simply to fuel manufactured culture wars you’ve blindly been manipulated into being soldiers for by somehow believing you are morally superior or righteously just in thinking you’re smarter than everyone else and somehow able to see behind the veil because crackpot theories and conspiracies occasionally do turn out to have some degree of veracity therefore they all must be true and unquestioned.

Quote:Of course, these behaviors can also befall those on the far left as well, which the video did point out, but here at good ol’ Rogue Nation (and at ATS), this doesn’t happen very often and when it does, it is quickly dogpiled and torn to shreds and the person posting is branded as a brain dead liberal leftist lunatic that can’t think beyond what the MSM feeds them even if they are just trying to point out that usually there is more than one side of a story or that information is missing or obfuscated to the detriment of critical unbiased thinking.

Quote:I understand whose house I am in here and the sway of this community to the right and further right but I have been here long enough to hope, even if perhaps foolishly, that we might maintain some degree of intelligence, balance and objectivity without falling into the category of just another partisan internet filter bubble.

(06-30-2023, 01:30 AM)Freija Wrote: And there we have it folks, two perfect examples of how quickly things devolve into the left vs. right, Republican vs. Democrat paradigm.

But muh guns...Biden...save the chllens, groomers and the same old song and dance as usual. I swear, some of you folks are so worked up over things you can't control or influence you're heading for heart attacks and an early grave.

Try taking a break once and a while and focus on your own lives and families or get a hobby other than ranting on the internet. You just might discover life isn't so bad after all and you might even learn to occasionally be happy or experience joy?

(06-29-2023, 10:09 PM)Freija Wrote: If you got hung up ... and didn’t watch the whole thing ... ? The truth hurts.

(06-30-2023, 02:02 AM)Snarl Wrote:

(06-29-2023, 10:09 PM)Freija Wrote: If you got hung up ... and didn’t watch the whole thing ... ? The truth hurts.

If there was truth there, I didn't get to it. That's a 30 minute video ... and within the first minute or so I saw it delve into politics. You can be more precise on what you want me to watch. Give me a timestamp and how long to watch to see the points you're trying to score on.

Please.

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(06-30-2023, 02:42 AM)Infolurker Wrote: It is not misinformation or disinformation if it is proven true. At least not in my worldview.

(06-30-2023, 02:20 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(06-30-2023, 02:02 AM)Snarl Wrote:

(06-29-2023, 10:09 PM)Freija Wrote: If you got hung up ... and didn’t watch the whole thing ... ? The truth hurts.

That's a 30 minute video ... and within the first minute or so I saw it delve into politics.

It's just political theater meant not to solve any goddamned thing at all, just keep the masses entertained and at one another's throats for a distraction from what it really about to hit us ALL, both Left and Right.

(06-30-2023, 04:26 AM)Freija Wrote: All I am going to add at this time is you try being at ground zero in a manufactured culture war and see how easy it is to recognize those that are not your friends and would rather you didn’t exist or speak. It is hard not to be a bit uppity and want to lash out or feel that even those who may be nice to your face usually secretly despise what you are and as much as I detest today’s partisan sideism, it isn’t hard to know what side my bread is buttered on and it isn’t for goddamned sure the Republican party.

Imagine now amid relative peace and calm and a place I could come to without having to constantly defend against the tactics and propaganda of this war which in most cases are based on lies, dis/misinformation, ignorance and willful ignorance and how it now feels to have that degree of relative tranquility shattered by refugees carrying forth with the same agenda that caused their ousting in other places gives me a great deal of grief because I know how entrenched and closed-minded they are in their self-righteous ideology fueled by rightwing talking heads and circle-jerking accolades from their comrades and I know when the bullshit flies I will have to respond and I have better things to do with my life.

As I see it, my choices are to take a break, ignore it all and let things devolve as they clearly will or metaphorically load my spare magazines and chamber a round and gleefully join the shitshow which would be pretty dumb when I’m outnumbered by those that insist on winning at all cost in a game they’ve been herded into playing like literal sheep.

I’m too old for this shit.