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The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens - EndtheMadnessNow - 06-14-2023 Say it isn't so...Whoa, shocker! Quote:The United States government has been secretly amassing a “large amount” of “sensitive and intimate information” on its own citizens, a group of senior advisers informed Avril Haines, the director of national intelligence, more than a year ago. We're going to see the return of Hoover's security index. Probably already exists under DHS. Many already exist at state level through fusion center surveillance operations. RE: The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens - NightskyeB4Dawn - 06-14-2023 Gathering dirt can be a weak weapon. The easiest way around it is to unload the chamber. Just stand up and own up to everything before they have a chance to dump the the information. It puts you in control and and makes their weapon useless. RE: The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens - xuenchen - 06-14-2023 High Caliber Blackmail and Insurance Database. For specific purposes. A "Credit Report" 10,000 times more powerful. RE: The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens - Snarl - 06-15-2023 They're planning to twist arms sumpin' fierce. People don't realize how easily they can be slaughtered by a mob. RE: The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens - BodhisattvaStyle - 06-15-2023 Yet, another thing I saw coming. Social media is counterintelligence on all of us. That's why I've been off social media for years now. The've been collecting data. Especially in the messengers. That's where dark secrets are on people. Sadly, this is not surprising to me. I have a feeling they will start to use 'those secrets/intel against them, if they needed to control them. And if there's been an actual law broken I guarantee they will be coming for certain individuals in the near future. But, then again, I'm suspicious of everything these days... RE: The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens - NightskyeB4Dawn - 06-15-2023 I am not one of those people that say they don't care because they have nothing to hide. This invasion of privacy business has moved way beyond the pale. I just refuse to give into the tactics. I found out years ago, the way to take the starch out them is a preemptive strike. The moment someone tries to use an error as a weapon, I take the blame. Example, in a meeting it was brought to the team's attention that someone had returned equipment and stored it improperly. Before they had a chance to start with the long sermon and come up with some crazy ass new requirement, making an already long process longer, I stood up and apologized for my mistake.I said, I had no excuse for the screw up, I was just tired that day and not thinking clearly. I said it was no use punishing everyone for my mistake. They were immediately shut down. Everyone got their message and the milk was wiped up. Later one of the office folk walked up to me and said, " Funny how you screwed up with the equipment when you haven't been in the equipment room in months". I just smiled and said, "Yeah, strange things happen to me all the time '. I am not perfect, I screw up enough that I have learned to use my screw ups as life lessons. My screw ups are the building blocks to the better person I want to be and the stepping stones to the place I want to go. So I don't let them be used as weapons against me. Own up and the only thing they can do is shut up. RE: The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens - Michigan Swamp Buck - 06-15-2023 I had given some thought to getting involved in local politics, maybe even running for some low level township office, but I have lots of dirt and a few skeletons in the closet. Also, I have come to realize that the corruption is throughout and they love playing dirty, so it is far too risky to get involved and become a target in my community. My influence will be marginal or non-existent, but I don't want to get into dirty politics. I'd rather let sleeping dogs ignore me while I do whatever the hell I want to do. If they can bend and break the laws, then so can I, just under the radar as they will have the dirt to make my grave if I pop up into view politically. The thing about all this is that they could manipulate the data they collect, even inserting things that never occurred and use that against me even without some social credit scoring system. The digital straw man they made is a marionette they can make do anything, it's real time manipulation of the historical records that is difficult and expensive to correct (if that is even possible). In order to protect that data, you at least need a certified or verified copy of it all to know what is out there, what they could use and what is the real data after they hack your records. At the least you will have the original records before they start making "Trumped up" charges and connect you to the Russians or hookers or Russian hookers, etc. RE: The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens - xuenchen - 06-15-2023 Aside from what they "gather" and "assemble", think about what somebody can "ADD" and "SUBTRACT" from your "File" for specific fees and services. RE: The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens - Ninurta - 06-15-2023 (06-15-2023, 01:15 PM)Michigan Swamp Buck Wrote: At the least you will have the original records before they start making "Trumped up" charges and connect you to the Russians or hookers or Russian hookers, etc. You say that like you think there is something wrong with Russian hookers! Why do you hate Russian hookers? What did they ever do to you? Seriously - when an opponent comes at you with stuff like that, or calls you a "racist" or a "misogynist" or "ableist" or any of the other accusatory "-ists" that they try to use these days, you just own it and then turn it on them to make THEM the haters. I've used that successfully for years. Let's take another example in the massively overused accusations of "racist". Rather than trying to defend against such accusations - getting defensive tends to make one appear as if they feel guilty - I just run with it. "Yeah? You think so? So what? What makes you think I care what you think of me? Where did I give you that impression?" that sort of thing. When they see they can't "guilt" you into compliance, it takes all of the wind right out of their sails. If they can't shame me, they have no control, and it gets on their nerves. Misogynist? If you think I'm a misogynist, then why in the hell are you just standing here instead of getting your bitch ass in the kitchen to make me a sammich? You think those sammiches make themselves or something? Honestly - if they don't think they can make you care what they think, they've got no ammo against you. . RE: The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens - Freija - 06-15-2023 I'm confused. Is this supposed to be breaking news or some major new revelation? To me, this seems like more of a duh and no shit Sherlock moment especially since the "Patriot Act" pretty much wiped out the 4th amendment. RE: The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens - Infolurker - 06-16-2023 (06-15-2023, 08:42 PM)Freija Wrote: I'm confused. Is this supposed to be breaking news or some major new revelation? No kidding. Always assume that every character, search, post, word you type on your computer has been logged and placed in your electronic file because it most probably has. Same with the open mic on your phone. RE: The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens - NightskyeB4Dawn - 06-16-2023 Talk about stockpiling data, how many of us have read the fine print on all the agreements we have clicked on. Black Mirror - Joan Is Awful surely gives us something to think about. RE: The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens - Ninurta - 06-17-2023 For folks who worry about such things, the key may be to create entire false online people to run. They can track "Daniel Hanson" all day long, but the rubber meets the road when they go to try and find him for an arrest.... That sort of thing is what "burner" cell phones are made for. . |