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How many more would have died ? - 727Sky - 02-19-2026 To answer that question we will never know as the shooter after pulling a second pistol shot himself. Sometimes all it takes is one brave man to stop evil; this hero was lucky IMO as the shooter had a second hand gun. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/rhode-island-ice-rink-shooting-123336415.html Quote:The trans suspect who opened fire at a Rhode Island ice hockey rink on Monday killed his ex-wife and adult son, authorities said, while his daughter alleged he had a "vendetta" against the family. RE: How many more would have died ? - Bally002 - 02-19-2026 (02-19-2026, 08:06 AM)727Sky Wrote: To answer that question we will never know as the shooter after pulling a second pistol shot himself. (02-19-2026, 08:16 AM)Bally002 Wrote:(02-19-2026, 08:06 AM)727Sky Wrote: To answer that question we will never know as the shooter after pulling a second pistol shot himself. What a wanker! Dressing up as a girlie boy. Guess he/she will have their supporters saying, "Oh, he was bullied." Wanker (again). Coward self inflicted gun shot wasn't enough. Pity he didn't face the chair dialled down to a lower amperage. Bally( RE: How many more would have died ? - 727Sky - 02-19-2026 He says he was not trained to intervene which I take to mean he was never military.. Lucky lucky lucky ! RE: How many more would have died ? - Ninurta - 02-19-2026 (02-19-2026, 08:16 AM)Bally002 Wrote: What a wanker! Dressing up as a girlie boy. Guess he/she will have their supporters saying, "Oh, he was bullied." Wanker (again). It happened up in Pawtucket, Rhode Island, which is in Yankee Land. I don't think they give their murderers the chair up there. I doubt they punish them much at all. They probably give them a lifetime stipend (what's called a "Crazy Check" around here) and turn 'em back loose on the population at large. That same kind of catch-and-release murder-go-round is scheduled to come to Virginia in the last half of this year. Exciting times coming. Shooter looked like Sammy Hagar in drag to me. If he's gonna transition, maybe do something about that 5 o'clock shadow, and maybe at least do something about that scraggly Sammy Hagar man-hair. Might not be much he could do about the build, but shit fire, if you're going to transition, do it like you mean it! I've seen lots of drag queens who look a LOT less manly than that shooter. Something not quite right about this story, though. Shooter's name was Robert Dorgan, alias Roberta something or other. His ex-wife's name was Rhonda Dorgan. Ok, so far so good - maybe she just failed to change her last name after the divorce, since she was still carrying her former husband's last name. It happens... my second wife kept my last name after the divorce, too. Son Aidan Dorgan, sure - he's gonna carry his dad's last name. But where it starts getting weird is her parents listed names - Linda and Gerald Dorgan. They are listed as HER (Rhonda Dorgan's) parents, so why in the hell are they carrying her ex-husband's last name? Did Dorgan have so much power over the family that he forced the whole damned bunch to take his name when he married into it, or what? . (02-19-2026, 08:16 AM)Bally002 Wrote: What a wanker! Dressing up as a girlie boy. Guess he/she will have their supporters saying, "Oh, he was bullied." Wanker (again). RE: How many more would have died ? - Bally002 - 02-19-2026 (02-19-2026, 08:55 AM)Ninurta Wrote:(02-19-2026, 08:16 AM)Bally002 Wrote: What a wanker! Dressing up as a girlie boy. Guess he/she will have their supporters saying, "Oh, he was bullied." Wanker (again). See yer point but I don't care who the person was, his/her persuation, whatever, the chair isn't good enough for this flotsum. Had a couple of similiar attacks yesterday here in downunder. Both were mental cases who "escaped" the institution. Result - 3 dead and others injured. Causes, knife and a car. (not the person) Death by Aussie 'meat ants' wouldn't be enough for these poor excuses of humanity, don't care if they were wacko in the brain. Give them a lasting serve of justice. After 'Bondi' I'm tired of this crap protecting the killers. Bally( RE: How many more would have died ? - YesItsMe - 02-19-2026 I'm just going to say it. The shooter sure was freaky looking. How he could think he was 'womanly' looking like that .... WOW. Distorted view of self and of reality. RE: How many more would have died ? - Ninurta - 02-19-2026 (02-19-2026, 12:26 PM)YesItsMe Wrote: I'm just going to say it. The shooter sure was freaky looking. Yeah, I think she's really let herself go to the dogs.... Here's some Sammy Hagar for comparisons: And the shooter: . RE: How many more would have died ? - David64 - 02-19-2026 (02-19-2026, 08:55 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Something not quite right about this story, though. Shooter's name was Robert Dorgan, alias Roberta something or other. His ex-wife's name was Rhonda Dorgan. Ok, so far so good - maybe she just failed to change her last name after the divorce, since she was still carrying her former husband's last name. It happens... my second wife kept my last name after the divorce, too. Son Aidan Dorgan, sure - he's gonna carry his dad's last name. But where it starts getting weird is her parents listed names - Linda and Gerald Dorgan. They are listed as HER (Rhonda Dorgan's) parents, so why in the hell are they carrying her ex-husband's last name? Did Dorgan have so much power over the family that he forced the whole damned bunch to take his name when he married into it, or what? He probably took her last name when they were married. Some "men" do. I have no idea why. I've seen women who Will Not take their husband's last name or let their children use his last name. Why is God's name anyone would marry someone like that is a mystery to me. RE: How many more would have died ? - OmegaLogos - 02-19-2026 (02-19-2026, 08:06 AM)727Sky Wrote: To answer that question we will never know as the shooter after pulling a second pistol shot himself. Explanation: Caution ... maths ahead! Since we don't know what type of guns were used we must rely on the reports that a 'dozen shots' were heard fired. Since it is rare for a revolver to have 12 bullets chambered we shall go with 'its a semi automatic pistol' with approximately 12 rounds in a magazine. We shall assume for the sake of convenience that he two pistols of the same make and model ok. He shot 5 people , not including himself, and killed 2 and critically wounded 3 before his 1st pistol ran out of bullets. That is close to 50% hit and of those hit , a 40% kill ratio. (this is close to my own estimate that follows below ok) I estimate on the above data that another 3 people would have died and here is why ... 12 bullets with 50% hit ratio = 6 hits ... and of those 6 hits 50% kill = 3 ... therefore 3 others were most likely to die. Personal Disclosure: Thankfully he shot and killed himself 1st and that saved at least 2 other lives minimum from being killed on average! Well done to the hero who confronted him!
RE: How many more would have died ? - YesItsMe - 02-19-2026 This is interesting. The 37 year old son of the trans shooter is in federal prison for trying to burn down a black church. Story Here Quote:The son of the transgender shooter whoopened fire at a high school hockey game is serving time in federal prison for setting fire to a black church. RE: How many more would have died ? - Ninurta - 02-19-2026 (02-19-2026, 12:44 PM)David64 Wrote: He probably took her last name when they were married. Some "men" do. I have no idea why. I've seen women who Will Not take their husband's last name or let their children use his last name. Why is God's name anyone would marry someone like that is a mystery to me. My first wife refused to take my name when we got married. Her excuse was that "it was for professional reasons". So, a few years into the marriage, she changed her mind and decided she wanted to take it... but I said "No. If it wasn't good enough for you then, it ain't good enough for you now. You can't have it." Wasn't long after that that we split up.... .I can't imagine a man taking his wife's last name. I've never heard of that. I've heard of them hyphenating both last names, but never a guy taking his wife's surname and giving up his own. That just ain't how it's done in English speaking countries! . RE: How many more would have died ? - YesItsMe - 02-19-2026 (02-19-2026, 01:03 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I can't imagine a man taking his wife's last name. I've never heard of that. I've heard of them hyphenating both last names, but never a guy taking his wife's surname and giving up his own. That just ain't how it's done in English speaking countries! Our daughter married a fella who took her last name. He has issues with his father and wanted to distance himself from the father. So now he has our last name. It happens. RE: How many more would have died ? - Ninurta - 02-19-2026 (02-19-2026, 12:53 PM)OmegaLogos Wrote: Explanation: Caution ... maths ahead! Good estimate, but it may have been even more. You've not accounted for potential spare magazines. I never go into the world without a loaded pistol and 2 spare magazines. Each magazine holds 17 rounds (standard magazine for that pistol - I have larger magazines for it, but only use them at the range because I'm lazy and I hate reloading, but on the street they look like a donkey dick sticking out of the pistol). So, in my case, loaded pistol = 17 rounds in the mag, 1 in the chamber, total 18 rounds. 2 spare magazines, total 34 spare magazine rounds. Total loadout = 52 rounds. We call that "loaded for bear". If I get in a mess out there, or if some jackass starts shooting up the crowd... in other words, if anyone gets hurt when I'm out there, I ain't gonna be the last one. So, if his pistol had standard magazines, then each mag would hold between 7 (.45 ACP) and around 18 ( I think some Glocks hold 18) rounds per magazine. Most 9mm pistols hold about 15 rounds per magazine, I believe. Mine's not a Glock (because I just hate Glocks), but it's standard mag is 17 rounds and I've never seen a smaller magazine for it. If he had extra magazines, especially if he had spares for both pistols, it could have been a lot, LOT worse. . RE: How many more would have died ? - Moon68 - 02-19-2026 (02-19-2026, 01:19 PM)Ninurta Wrote:(02-19-2026, 12:53 PM)OmegaLogos Wrote: Explanation: Caution ... maths ahead! RI is a limited capacity state, therefore, the shooters max was 10 rounds per magazine. I haven't seen listed the firearm used but it could've been a sub-compact, say a Ruger LCP or S&W Shield that carry even less standard rounds. Just adding to the discussion. RE: How many more would have died ? - Ninurta - 02-19-2026 (02-19-2026, 01:08 PM)YesItsMe Wrote:(02-19-2026, 01:03 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I can't imagine a man taking his wife's last name. I've never heard of that. I've heard of them hyphenating both last names, but never a guy taking his wife's surname and giving up his own. That just ain't how it's done in English speaking countries! That could make it make sense. It would not surprise me to find out this shooter had "daddy issues", given his behavior which he appears to have passed on to his prison-housed son. It seems that a senseless sort of violent behavior might just run in that family. . RE: How many more would have died ? - Freija - 02-19-2026 The guns used in the shooting were a Glock 29 (10MM) that was used to shoot others until the bullets ran out then a Sig Sauer P226 (.357) was used to unalive themself. Authorities searched shooter's storage and found a sawed off shotgun and an AR ![]() Crazy people everywhere. RE: How many more would have died ? - Ninurta - 02-19-2026 (02-19-2026, 06:19 PM)Freija Wrote: The guns used in the shooting were a Glock 29 (10MM) that was used to shoot others until the bullets ran out then a Sig Sauer P226 (.357) was used to unalive themself. Good job on finding the weapon models while the rest of us were just punching around in the dark! If those are the actual firearms the cops found in the storage in that photo, that AR looks like a Smith and Wesson M+P-15 (the official trunk gun of, among others, the West Virginia State Police), and the shotgun looks to me like a Mossberg, but I'm less sure of that. I'm pretty certain on the AR, though. It looks just like the one I bought, right down to the odd shaped trigger guard and heavy barrel, when it was in stock configuration before I customized it. .As an aside, the guns photographed for the Diddy trial included 3 M+P-15's, but I think they had all been customized already. Cheap (as in "inexpensive", not poorly built) AR's. Mine sold for 500 bucks new-in-the-box after the dealer knocked off 100 dollars. That was in 2017. It came with 1 (one) Pmag Gen M2 30 round standard capacity magazine, which I immediately replaced with magazines I felt were more reliable. The Gen M2 Pmags had a nasty habit of dumping all their rounds if dropped on the base plate (that was fixed in the Gen M3 Pmags), and was all plastic, including the feed lips, which I didn't fancy using if the gun started running hot. That deficiency has not, to date, been fixed, so I replaced it with a Lancer polymer magazine, which has steel feed lips. If the killer ran his Glock dry, then the guy who initially tackled him mangled his hand for no good reason buy trapping his hand in the mechanism of an empty pistol. However, whether he was trained or not, that IS how they trained us to disarm an opponent with an auto-pistol... by trapping the web of your hand between the hammer and the slide and jamming the works. I don't think any Glocks have hammers, though, so I'm not sure what part of the mechanism he jammed up with his hand. Most Glocks are striker-fired, which is one of the main things I have against ever using one. ETA: I looked up the Glock 29 specifically, and it IS a striker fired gun. They're tiny little things (i.e. "sub compact") with a 3.78" barrel and what looks like about half of the grip of a real pistol. Apparently made for concealment, it's standard capacity is 10+1. ETA2: Thinking about it, it's possible that getting a bit of your hand inside the ejection port, and trapping it between the back of the ejection port on the slide and the chamber face at the rear of the barrel might work to jam up a Glock, as it would prevent the gun from going into full battery, which might be a necessity for a Glock to fire. I dunno enough about Glocks because I'll never use one, and so I reserve the brain cells to store other, more pertinent to me, information... just spit-balling. . RE: How many more would have died ? - Minstrel - 02-19-2026 'Read that - the, now deceased, ex-wife was the cousin of the shooter. Likewise, saying that said ex-wife was the shooter's elder brother's daughter...and that elder brother was among those shot. Don't know how much faith to put in this information, as the numbers/dates don't seem to fit the story-line appropriately. Perhaps, they (the author of the article) used the wrong Census date... https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2026/02/19/ex-wife-killed-by-trans-ice-rink-shooter-was-also-his-cousin/ RE: How many more would have died ? - YesItsMe - 02-19-2026 Not only do we find out that the trans shooter had a full grown son that is in prison for trying to burn down a black church, but now we find out that the woman he married is his cousin. This is a strange story. Keeps getting stranger. Story Here RE: How many more would have died ? - Minstrel - 02-19-2026 (02-19-2026, 09:26 PM)YesItsMe Wrote: Not only do we find out that the trans shooter had a full grown son that is in prison for trying to burn down a black church, but now we find out that the woman he married is his cousin. Thanks, @YesItsMe ... Clarified some things for me. The ex-wife was a first cousin, once removed...being the grand-daughter of the shooter's uncle. The shooter's dad was also named "Robert", but with a different middle name. The shooter had 6 children from multiple relationships... Married "Rhonda" in 1992. Divorce finalized in 2021. |