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5,000 Dead People Getting SNAP - 727Sky - 11-15-2025
Is there any government program where the crooks do not have their greedy fingers in the 'cookie jar' meant for others ?
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Quote:5,000 Dead People Getting SNAP, 500,000 Receiving Benefits Twice: Rollins
She also said that if some SNAP benefits were cut off, more illegal immigrants would self-deport.
The secretary of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) said in a recent interview that the department found that 500,000 people are registered twice for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits, while more than 5,000 deceased people have also been receiving the benefits.
In an interview on Nov. 12 with Fox News, USDA Secretary Brooke Rollins said that SNAP is one of the “most corrupt, dysfunctional programs” in U.S. history, adding that 80 percent of people using the program are able to work. After an investigation, the secretary said that 5,000 dead people were getting SNAP, while another 500,000 people were getting SNAP twice under the same name.
“They choose not to work” because taxpayers are footing the bill, she added, saying that “very big announcements” will be coming in the next week.
Her comment was made as SNAP benefits, known as food stamps, saw setbacks and legal wrangling during the government shutdown that was ended on Wednesday evening.
Rollins also suggested that if some SNAP benefits are cut off, more illegal immigrants will self-deport, which she said would change the outcome of the Census.
Earlier in the month, as SNAP benefits were suspended, Rollins described “massive fraud” in the system, noting that the fraud was discovered only in states that had cooperated with a prior investigation. She said that 21 states refused to hand over their SNAP data to the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), which was established by the Trump administration earlier this year.
After the shutdown ended, the USDA, which runs the program, issued new guidance on Nov. 13 saying that “state agencies must take immediate steps to ensure households receive their full November allotments promptly.”
“The reduction in maximum allotments for November is no longer in effect,” it added. “State agencies should immediately resume issuing combined allotments for November and December for newly certified applicants who apply after the 15th of the month.”
Officials with USDA said that because households that receive SNAP didn’t get a full month of benefits and saw uncertainty, the department sent instructions to states “to not issue countable months for time limited participants for November 2025” and that states “should resume normal procedures for countable months beginning in December 2025.”
The federal food program is used by about 42 million people, or around one in eight Americans, namely in lower-income households. They receive an average of $190 monthly per person.
In some states where SNAP recipients received nothing in November, officials said they are working to load money onto people’s electronic benefit cards by Friday, if not sooner.
The Arkansas Department of Human Services said on Nov. 13 that full November SNAP benefits are expected to be available at midnight for people to buy groceries.
“This has been difficult for our beneficiaries, and we are incredibly appreciative to our partners across the state who helped bridge the gap through food pantries, donation drives, and other assistance efforts,” Department Secretary Janet Mann said in a statement.
Officials in West Virginia, which also had not issued November benefits, said the full monthly amount should be available by Nov. 14. And Alabama said full SNAP benefits should be issued on Nov. 13.
The shutdown ended as President Donald Trump signed a continuing resolution to fund the federal government until late January, coming after the Senate and House passed a funding package.
RE: 5,000 Dead People Getting SNAP - Minstrel - 11-15-2025
I was always told "you can't take it with you".
Guess 5,000 have found a way.
RE: 5,000 Dead People Getting SNAP - F2d5thCav - 11-15-2025
Yeah, but are any of them getting John Wayne bars ? Or even just green eggs and ham ?
RE: 5,000 Dead People Getting SNAP - Ninurta - 11-15-2025
(11-15-2025, 01:52 PM)Minstrel Wrote: I was always told "you can't take it with you".
Guess 5,000 have found a way.
I know that in Virginia at least, dead folks regularly vote, and they always vote Democrat regardless of how they voted when alive. Even Ray Stevens' grandpa got caught voting Democrat after he was dead. Ray wrote a humerous song about it, but it actually happened to him.
Have a heart, bro - you don't expect dead folks to vote on an empty stomach, do you?
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One of the problems with food stamp fraud is that the Feds only pump in the money - they haven't overseen it's distribution for years. They farm out the distribution to individual states, who then further farm it out to private companies - who of course skim their cut off the top. it's a business, y'know?
All of that means that it goes through too many hands, too many "cut-outs", to be properly overseen. There are too many places for fraud and abuse to enter the equation unnoticed.
Back when I was young, the feds directly distributed food stamps. They used to come in a little book that you tore individual certificates out of, and then "spent" at the store like they were dollars. When you overspent, the change you got back was often in real dollars, so that got abused, too. That's why they moved to disbursement on plastic - no change coming from that. Oh, I know the government said it was to avoid "stigma" and preserve "dignity" of people in the checkout having to hand over those colorful food stamps, but the real bottom line, as always, was the Benjamins, and reducing their fraud and theft. The bottom line is always the money.
They also issued vouchers back then for products the USDA bought from farmers and stored in warehouses. Usually dairy products and the like, as I recall. "Government cheese" was a real thing back then. It was American cheese, and came in 5 pound blocks in brown cardboard with black stamps on them, like military rations. When you cut into it, you could actually see raw chunks of salt peter that they used to preserve it with. I knew several folks that wouldn't eat it on account of that - salt peter was so-called, they said, because it kept your peter limp, and they wanted no part of that. You could trade those folks a few shotgun shells for their block of cheese, everybody happy.
The first step in cutting the fraud and waste, i think, should be to get the private companies out of the distribution loop.
Putting the benefits on cards is still a good idea, as it does tend to eliminate chances for fraud and theft - can't steal them out of a mail box if they never enter one. Refreshing the rolls yearly at the least should tend towards reducing dead people getting or staying on them, and stop the double-dippers. Hell, just putting everyone in a database, and then sorting that database by individual information fields should reveal the double-dippers pretty handily. A match in a single field - name or address, for example - might not really show them, as those things could be coincidental, but a match on 3 fields or more... well, then you'll have caught a fraudster.
And, under NO circumstances, should illegal aliens qualify for food stamps! If they are not here legally, then why should they get the benefit of the government assistance? that's like paying burglars to invade your home and raid it!
Also, the census and illegals - census records are used to apportion seats in congress, and to determine how much money each census area is entitled to for various programs from the federal government. Because of those things, illegals should not be enumerated in censuses. On paper, they are not allowed to vote, so why should they get extra seats in congress? Why should they be able to increase federal payouts to an area for breaking into it illegally? That, too, is like inviting burglars to invade your home and raid it, and then paying them extra for the privilege of having been raided!
If any place or area wants to shelter illegals, then THEY should have to foot the bill for it themselves - no reason I should have to pay for their folly. They ought to pay for their own damned idiocy, out of their own damned pockets... not everyone else's pockets. There is a lot of truth to the saying that democracy is the fine art of spending OTHER PEOPLE'S money..
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RE: 5,000 Dead People Getting SNAP - Minstrel - 12-17-2025
(11-15-2025, 06:38 PM)Ninurta Wrote: ...
Have a heart, bro - you don't expect dead folks to vote on an empty stomach, do you?
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I wonder if it's the same dead folk' voting, as are receiving 'subsistence'...
If so - the task gets easier.
If not, sounds like a genuine racket on the other side...the kind that goes to trial on charges of RICO, and such.
For the first time, in modern history, The Afterlife will be required...by law...to answer for itself.
(And, 'Trump' could put that on his resume, too.)
RE: 5,000 Dead People Getting SNAP - Ninurta - 12-17-2025
Well, you know, dead folks NEED those SNAP benefits - they can't work, you see...
I can't get SNAP now - do I have to die to get it?
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RE: 5,000 Dead People Getting SNAP - Minstrel - 12-17-2025
(12-17-2025, 05:26 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Well, you know, dead folks NEED those SNAP benefits - they can't work, you see...
I can't get SNAP now - do I have to die to get it?
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Looks like it.
